STOP Getting-off before me
 

It just happens to me in the past 2 months, and happens in most of the sector HKG/PVG/TPE and even SFO!!!

I usually seat in the front EY-cabin, but lately there are people from behind me literally "run" or I should say rush to the cabin divider before us, is that really hurry? What are the etiquette and manner of following one by one?

I think the flight attendant should add this reminder message instead of "pointing the emergency exit" when no one actually looking. or simply add a tv program for inflight health and "manner"

IF they want to get into the front cabin, be an elite, be someone need assist, be smart to book ahead, or just pay for other cabin. But just please STOP Getting-off before me and others.:mad:

How Petty
 

To suggest that your ability to get off the plane first is more important than the safety of everybody on board is down right arrogant.

The FA's first and most important responsibility is the safety of the pax and the crew.

The OP's tone didn't strike me as arrogant, I get really annoyed as well when I get run over when trying to get out of my seat. There are frequently people smashing up from the aisles and then once the aisle fills up frequently there are people standing on your shoes, smeared against you. Very strange. Happens most often on domestic China flights, but it's pretty common on KA and even CX as well. Gotten better over the last few years, but still it's not exactly enjoyable. It's like a prisoners' dilemma...then you too have to jump out of your seat as fast as possible and claim aisle space before someone else from the back tramples up there.

Also, look everyone knows the FA's are responsible for the safety of pax and crew. This is nothing original, and I'm pretty sure the OP doesn't actually mean that FAs should peace out just to let him get to the front. I think the bigger issue is that people sometimes fly out of their seats and run up to the front of a section. It annoys me immensely when people on FT use the safety of pax and crew as an end all for debate.

Ironically, it isn't exactly safe on many of the KA flights when pax do have a rush to the front, trampling over people.

Also in J - Class
 

Happened to me a couple of times in J-Class as well (and not only on HKG - China flights).

Before I even started to read what the OP had posted, I knew that this was somehow related to China... ;)

Don't get me wrong here, and I'm not trying to look down on or point fingers at anybody. But ask people who have lived here (or stayed here for a longer time) and they will tell you that this is a very common problem.

It's all about "me, me, me, me" (almost like Smith in the Matrix :D). The same thing happens on buses, anywhere there is a cue system involved, the metro, the trains... etc etc. Try crossing a street where there is a traffic light operating.

These are just the facts, and unfortunately there is nothing one can do about it. Sure, you can always try and "educate" the so called offenders, but they will probably just stare at you and wonder what's wrong with you - "don't you want to get off the plain as well?" :cool:


Cheers,
Joe

being tramped on is nowhere close to safe. and yes, i'm pointing my fingers at those from mainland china.

otoh, on this last trip i've made using a points upgrade, in ba and jal people dont even jump up as the plane "comes to a stop"

not quite sure why they are always in the mood of getting off the plane first, not that their luggage would be off first as well

:D Ha ha ha!!!!!

Best way to train the offenders is letting your 15kg cabin trolley fall on their feet!!! :D

I'm know an expert at aiming for the toes, and IT REALLY WORKS!!! :D

Wether in KA, CX and even MU the technique has earned me a lot of furious stears but ensures that my 'lebensraum' is not invaded. :D

Ussually KA, is quite good at keeping Y pax out of C, and so is LH, BA, OZ, and in F with LX I even got the C and Y pax redirected to the other aisle to let me peacefully disembark.
SU, TG that's an other thing. Not to mention MU, CZ, CA, IB (yes flights in Spain are very much like intra village buses complete with chickens and boxes of vegetables, not as bad as China but with a familiar flavour).

Get angry, never, just let the bag fall and then do as the frenchies do: 'desole monsieur' :D

On the other hand, once out of the plane, I can't bear F and C pax blocking the travelators, specially in destinations with long immigration queues like PVG. If you want to queue, right, but don't force everybody else into it. For such cases I'm considering to install retractable cutting blades on my trolley "a la Ben Hur"

I can sympathise with the OP very much. I'm usually towards the front as I pre-book my seats well in advance, and hate when people try to trample over everyone else to run to the front. On the off occasions that I'm seated near the rear, I wait my turn patiently so why can't everyone else?

People in the back are able to get on the flight first, so they have to wait to get off. People in the front have to get on last (except elites ;)) so they are able to be the first off.

It annoys me when people try to cheat the system.

Next part is a bit OT:

Though it's not related to mainland China only, Singaporeans can be even worse. On my last CX flight to SIN, a bunch (and I mean many discrete bunches) of oldies decided that they didn't want to sit in the rear in their assigned seats, so they'd just sit wherever the hell they wanted to.

Caused a real headache for the cabin crew and also annoyed many elites who had reserved aisle seats near the front beforehand to find someone squatting in their place.

Luckily didn't affect me because I was one of the first to board, when I travel in Y I like to be one of the first on so that I don't need to search for the scraps of overhead bin space that are left after everyone else is done with it.

Why the thread
 

Not sure why the OP needed to post a thread on this, but this happens on all flights and all airlines and in both J and Y classes. :confused:

When an entire plane of passengers gets up to exit, there is limited aisle space and it will be tight. @:-)

Why some people rush to the front, there could be a number of reasons, including a tight connection, need to get some air, trying to catch up to someone in the front cabin.

Perhaps everyone should relax and you will enjoy the flight and day better.:D

+1 ^. On my recent flight on Air Asia BKK-MFM (Macau), a lot of mainland Chinese was on the plane. Once the plane got to the gate in MFM and the second the engines were turned off, I saw people running and pushing their way to the front of the cabin. Some foreigners and I starred at each other not believing their behaviors.....:o

At the baggage re-claim, they did not have a bit of knowledge and stand the farthest away from the baggage "exit". As my bags came up the third of the whole plane and stood close to the exit area, I grabbed them and left before all of those pushy Chinese, feeling no rush and relaxed and still getting ahead of them.

I was lucky enough to not have this on CX yet.

As someone who has lived in China for 13 years I can say that I have seen the rushing so many times that I have begun not to notice it...Thinking about it now the cycle is usually:

1. Plane touches down and is wobbling down the runway, one or two people stand up to get their bags out of the overhead bins to prepare for the escape
2. FA's run up and scold said people
3. Sound of seat belts clicking open throughout the plane
4. Cell phones pinging on
5. Plane lurches to a stop at gate
6. Most passengers standing, stepping into aisle, reaching and twisting for bags.
7. Passengers moving to front, filling spaces.
8. Right of way goes to who is moving first
9. All off
10. Waiting at baggage carousel...standing 5cm from edge blocking view of others
11. Baggage picked up...go go go

On occasion I will make a point of pulling someone up for jumping in front of others, but my wife will generally pull me up for pulling them up, saying I am wasting my breath....so my normal method is just to put the visors down and go with the flow....

OMG! This thread has summed up all my bottled-up frustrations since moving to HKG over 3 years ago and regularly experiencing first hand the supposed "civilisation" that is touching down at Check Lap Kok... but didn't have the courage to express out loud. :D

Another gripe... once you exit the plane, out come the mobile phones and you encounter individuals yelling into them (or groups at each other!) in loud Cantonese or Putonghua! For some reason, talking discretely isn't in their blood. If you hadn't realize you've arrived at HKG, well, you surely know by then! :D

And to this comment:

Far from being arrogant, the OP is expressing the lack of courtesy when such incidences happen on the aircraft. Courtesy would be to let those who intend to disembark from the plane, move into the aisle orderly by row from the exit. I've personally seen people sitting at the window seats desperately try to set foot on the aisle, only to be exasperated and stalled by the stream of passengers pushing from the back of the aircraft that appear to not want give way. :td:

You've experienced kiasu or kiasu-ism. It's a Hokkien word meaning "afraid to lose [out]". Hard to really translate well, but it's used to describe a sort of petty competitiveness by people who want to 1) maximize their gain, often at the expense of others or 2) who will spend an awful lot of effort that in the end may not actually be worth all the effort, or 3) will try to keep up with the "Joneses" because they feel they're being left behind.

Examples:
1) People who load up on the sushi, smoked salmon, fresh orange juice at buffets
2) Someone who will get up really early and drive 2 hours to a store to save $5.00 on a $100.00 item.
3) Someone who will barter for 1/2 hour with a store person for an extra few dollars off the price.

But you forget Cantonese is not a spoken language, it is a yelled language. Even civilized, polite, high-brow conversations in Cantonese sound like people are arguing about whose mother was insulted first/worst.