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Sohoboy Jan 12, 2009 6:29 pm

CX Fuel Surcharge
 
CX last reviewed their Fuel Surcharge in Dec 08. Does anyone has idea when they will review their surcharge again as I intend to book a flight in early March. Do you think they will cancel the surcharge as oil price has plunged recently, just as some other airlines did?

b-kpf Jan 12, 2009 6:36 pm


Originally Posted by Sohoboy (Post 11063512)
CX last reviewed their Fuel Surcharge in Dec 08. Does anyone has idea when they will review their surcharge again as I intend to book a flight in early March. Do you think they will cancel the surcharge as oil price has plunged recently, just as some other airlines did?

highly unlikely that cx will cancel the surcharge

christep Jan 12, 2009 7:12 pm

The surcharges need to be reviewed by CAD every 2 months. I do believe at some point if the price stays below $50 then the surcharge will disappear, but it may take a while. I like the Japanese system where there is a simple formula for the surcharge based on the oil price over a specific preceding period.

mmaddog Jan 12, 2009 9:56 pm

But CX might still be buying hedged contract oil at $100......

christep Jan 12, 2009 11:16 pm

Tough - that's the shareholders' problem, not the customers'. Either they build the cost of incompetence in the finance department into the price of the tickets or they take a hit on the profits and reduce the dividend. Either way, the person who signed up for that should be fired, as was the person who stuffed up two consecutive business class refits (NRBS and the new long haul) - it is just a shame she didn't get replaced after the first one. Perhaps the finance people will be allowed a second chance to lose a billion dollars just to prove that s/he wasn't just unlucky?

FWIW I sold my CX shares at about HK$20.

gear down Jan 12, 2009 11:52 pm

christep, she doesn't work here anymore

christep Jan 13, 2009 1:20 am

I know she doesn't - but it was a shame she was allowed a second chance with the long haul product after the stuff up with NRBC. If they had replaced her then maybe new long haul wouldn't have been the disaster that it is.

mmaddog Jan 13, 2009 1:26 am


Originally Posted by christep (Post 11065184)
I know she doesn't - but it was a shame she was allowed a second chance with the long haul product after the stuff up with NRBC. If they had replaced her then maybe new long haul wouldn't have been the disaster that it is.

Can't agree more! Leaving us to suffer for god knows how long ..... (a bit OT, there is still no power in 747's EY section)

tedhl Jan 13, 2009 1:27 am

while I understand she's the key one managing the project/product, but I also heard some people defending for her - in such a large project / such a major product introduction, in fact all the senior management and directors were very much involved in the process and so they're fully aware of the details and were supportive of such a design/direction. so, from this angle maybe it's hard to say it's just her own fault...

BTW - for the record I also completely don't like the new J product...not talking about the bigger screen / better AVOD which is good, but most other aspects about the seat otherwise I'd prefer the old seat.

Jane's Addiction Jan 13, 2009 1:37 am

I prefer the new J to old J. Everyone's criteria differs, but privacy and fully flat were my top two issues, and were the main reasons that I almost always bought J and used miles to F (or just bought AONEX) when flying HKG to NYC. But given the improved J (for my needs) and the decreased F offering (for the soft product.. the seat / IFE is awesome) I see myself being content in J, so will by Y and upgrade to J. Does my wallet good...

sxc Jan 13, 2009 1:55 am


Originally Posted by tedhl (Post 11065196)
while I understand she's the key one managing the project/product, but I also heard some people defending for her - in such a large project / such a major product introduction, in fact all the senior management and directors were very much involved in the process and so they're fully aware of the details and were supportive of such a design/direction. so, from this angle maybe it's hard to say it's just her own fault...

BTW - for the record I also completely don't like the new J product...not talking about the bigger screen / better AVOD which is good, but most other aspects about the seat otherwise I'd prefer the old seat.

It really puzzles me why CX's seat is still a hot topic. VS / NZ have had a similar style and from what I can tell, most people love those seats, so I don't think it is the herringbone configuration per se.

I think it boils down to these main points:

1-Less width than VS
2- Higher partitions than VS
3- Bad build quality

Gambler Jan 14, 2009 7:00 pm

The South China Morning Post recently asked readers to send in their thoughts as to how CX managed to lose more money fuel hedging when the price of oil went below $50 then when it was $150. Although the competition ended a few days ago, they couldn't resist publishing a "late entry" in yesterday's paper. One reader said "the joke going around is that CX moved the chap responsible for the new business class revamp to fuel hedging last summer".

Note: I also dislike the new J-class in a major way.

SNA_Flyer Jan 14, 2009 9:02 pm

The fuel hedging is certainly a disaster.

I actually like the new J seats for overnight flights. I get a great night of sleep and love the privacy and having aisle access. Daytime flights are a bit of a different story, they do feel a little bit cramped, but I still like the privacy.

satish_ny Jan 22, 2009 11:33 am

CATHAY PACIFIC/ DRAGONAIR TO DECREASE PASSENGER FUEL SURCHARGES AS FROM 1st Feb 2009
 
22nd January 2009


REVISED FUEL SURCHARGE

CATHAY PACIFIC/ DRAGONAIR TO DECREASE PASSENGER FUEL
SURCHARGES AS FROM 01st February 2009


Cathay Pacific Airways (CX) and Dragonair (KA) have announced the approval to decrease the passenger fuel surcharge. This will be effective for tickets issued or re-issued on or after 1st February 2009.

The adjustments represent reductions of 43% from the current surcharges.

There are two levels (category 1 & 2) of Fuel Surcharge and for clarity we have detailed in the points below how the surcharge should be implemented.

1) The revised fuel surcharge applies for all tickets issued/reissued & travel on/after 1st February 2009.

2) Category 1 – US$35.90/ HK$280.00 or equivalent for CX flight coupons between HKG and:

a) SOUTH WEST PACIFIC - HKGADL HKGAKL HKGBNE HKGCNS HKGMEL HKGPER HKGSYD
b) NORTH AMERICA - HKGJFK HKGLAX HKGSFO HKGYVR HKGYTO
c) EUROPE - HKGAMS HKGFCO HKGFRA HKGLHR HKGPAR
d) MIDDLE EAST - HKGBAH HKGDXB HKGRUH
e) SOUTH AFRICA - HKGJNB
f) SOUTH ASIAN SUB-CONTINENT – HKGBOM HKGDEL HKGBLR HKGKHI BKKDXB (except KTM, DAC & MAA).
g) THIS ALSO APPLIES TO FLIGHTS BETWEEN - BANGKOK AND DUBAI.

3) Category 2 – US$7.80/ HK$61.00 or equivalent for CX/KA flight coupons not mentioned in category 1.

4) The fuel surcharges apply per passenger per CX/KA flight coupon including all our codeshare flights except flights within France (ground transportation), flights between DMM and BAH (ground transportation) and will be collected from all passengers regardless of ticket stock.




5) This applies to all fare types and regardless of class of travel and type of fares including frequent flyer programmes.

6) The fuel surcharge is to be collected at point of sale or ticket issue/reissue and shown as //YR// in the tax/fees/charges box of ticket.

7) There is no exemption to any category of passengers. (Such as Children/Infants/Senior/AD/ FOC... Etc.) For ID, please refer to carrier.

8) The fuel surcharge is "interlinable" and the amount shall accrue to CX.

9) The fuel surcharge will apply until further notice.

Examples of Fuel Surcharge application

If flight coupon falls in the conditions 1 and 2, both surcharges should be collected. For example:

a) LHR/HKG – US$35.90 & HKG/TPE – US$7.80 applies.
b) BKK/HKG – US$7.80 & HKG/NYC – US$35.90 applies.


Kind Regards





Pricing and Commercial
Cathay Pacific Airways

kaichun1216 Jan 22, 2009 11:44 am


Originally Posted by satish_ny (Post 11123193)
22nd January 2009


REVISED FUEL SURCHARGE

CATHAY PACIFIC/ DRAGONAIR TO DECREASE PASSENGER FUEL
SURCHARGES AS FROM 01st February 2009


Cathay Pacific Airways (CX) and Dragonair (KA) have announced the approval to decrease the passenger fuel surcharge. This will be effective for tickets issued or re-issued on or after 1st February 2009.
.......

Damn!!!! I just buy my ticket for my summer break yesterday.
The fuel surcharge I pay is USD155.60 (SFO-HKG-TPE v.v.) :mad:


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