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Siamstationed Oct 24, 2008 1:01 am

Expertflyer and CX seat availability
 
Is any one else struggling with expertflyer and inaccurate CX availability. It used to be spot on but the last 6 weeks, the availability shown on expertflyer is hardly ever correct, where as seatcounter is always 100% spot on, which is a shame as expertflyer is (or used to be) a fantastic tool.

sxc Oct 24, 2008 1:43 am

I don't use expertflyer, but I wonder if it's anything to do with CX backend changes? You may have noticed that the online booking tool changed recently, so maybe its something to do with that.

KO2546 Oct 24, 2008 2:37 am


Originally Posted by Siamstationed (Post 10569604)
Is any one else struggling with expertflyer and inaccurate CX availability. It used to be spot on but the last 6 weeks, the availability shown on expertflyer is hardly ever correct, where as seatcounter is always 100% spot on, which is a shame as expertflyer is (or used to be) a fantastic tool.

Yes I also noticed inaccuracy for CX flights... very annoying!

cxfan1960 Oct 24, 2008 8:49 am

But OP seems to indicate that seatcounter is still good. Are seatcounter and EF polling from the same source?

daniellam Oct 24, 2008 2:02 pm

CX is now using dynamic availability through a combination of married segment control, point of sale availability, and journey data polling as part of their revenue management :td:

As such, the availability you see on ExpertFlyer may not be accurate.

Married Segment Control = Availability is based on market (i.e. there may be availability for SYD-HKG-LHR [if requested together], but none if SYD-HKG and HKG-LHR are requested seperately).

Point of Sale Availability = Availability is not available in certain inventory on the GDS sets of some travel agencies (in countries with high booking and cancelling without buying ticket etc.) Note: CX availability on AA.com is sometimes better.

Journey Data Polling = Even thought availabilty is shown, the flight may come back as "uncomfirmable" just because the itinerary contains an "offensive" segment (causing CX to loose revenue due to a through are being sold rather than seperate tickets).

These days, I have lost all hope on relying on availability displays for CX flights. The only way to know if there is availablity is to have a travel agent try and do a test booking to see the flights/dates you want come back as "confirmed".

ExpertFlyer Voice Oct 24, 2008 7:23 pm


Originally Posted by Siamstationed (Post 10569604)
Is any one else struggling with expertflyer and inaccurate CX availability. It used to be spot on but the last 6 weeks, the availability shown on expertflyer is hardly ever correct, where as seatcounter is always 100% spot on, which is a shame as expertflyer is (or used to be) a fantastic tool.

If you have an issue please email us at [email protected] with the exact information about the flights you are looking at, and what specifically you think the data should be. We have access to many different sources for availability information, and one of them will be correct for CX.

In the future please email us directly as soon as you find an issue, after all if we don't know there is a problem, we can't solve it.

Thanks,
-EFV

brunos Oct 25, 2008 1:26 am


Originally Posted by daniellam (Post 10572521)
CX is now using dynamic availability through a combination of married segment control, point of sale availability, and journey data polling as part of their revenue management :td:

As such, the availability you see on ExpertFlyer may not be accurate.

Married Segment Control = Availability is based on market (i.e. there may be availability for SYD-HKG-LHR [if requested together], but none if SYD-HKG and HKG-LHR are requested seperately).

Point of Sale Availability = Availability is not available in certain inventory on the GDS sets of some travel agencies (in countries with high booking and cancelling without buying ticket etc.) Note: CX availability on AA.com is sometimes better.

Journey Data Polling = Even thought availabilty is shown, the flight may come back as "uncomfirmable" just because the itinerary contains an "offensive" segment (causing CX to loose revenue due to a through are being sold rather than seperate tickets).

These days, I have lost all hope on relying on availability displays for CX flights. The only way to know if there is availablity is to have a travel agent try and do a test booking to see the flights/dates you want come back as "confirmed".

Agreed. I have had recent cases where EF zeroed out some F and C classes while CX was showing availability.


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