How is Club Sector defined ?
 

Hi All,

Sorry for a naive question.. I am new to this forum and asia miles program. This is my first flight in CX from SFO-HKG-MAA next month and was reading through the Marco Club from CX.

How is a sector defined ? In the above itinerary does it consider 4 sectors SFO-HKG, HKG-MAA and return or is it consider 1 sector ?

Also i we take local flights in US through partner airlines AA or AS, say from SFO-PDX or SFO-LAX... do they considered as a sector ?

Appreciate your answer.

Thanks

YES 4 sectors (SFO-HKG, HKG-MAA, MAA-HKG, HKG-SFO), but in this case it might be easier for you to achieve the 30000 miles threshold than 20 sectors for Silver.
AA is a member of oneworld, so no matter how short the flight is, it count as one sector, as long as your fare qualifies.
However, AS is not a member of oneworld, so you only earn Asia Miles (no MPO miles / sectors)

CX is a little weird with its sector definitions. My favorite example: CX 889/888 JFK-HKG-JFK. It stops in YVR, but instead of getting 4 sectors, you get 2 sectors for the roundtrip because the flight number enroute does not change. Same for HKG-BOM via BKK. Same flight number means just one sector each way vs. 2 sectors each way. Take CX 713 (flight no.?) to BKK and then transfer to 751 and that counts as 2 sectors each way. Go figure.

Same as xONEx - I do not have personal experience, but I heard that these flights are not considered different segments on xONEx.

If it's one ticket coupon then it's one sector. Simple. And not at all unusual - that's how all airlines do it.

If your ticket has the sector in between, then you get the sector stop. I.e. if your ticket is HKG-YVR-JKF then you will get 2 boarding passes and 2 stop-overs. I was on the HK-BOM flight CX751 and my ticket was HKG-BKK-BOM so when i made the booking i just booked HK-BOM and CX troubled me at the counter and didnt let me board. Thanks to my DM card I booked myself for the next day...and had to book HK-BKK-BOM (as the ticket showed). and when i went to check in the next day, i was given 2 boarding passes.

I know if your a person who collect sectors, adding the bkk part to your ticket doesnt cost much (HK$250 if i remember) but now the problem with this ticket is that you are not able to take the direct flights on offer....

I am, frankly, stunned that CX (even the much degraded CX that we have today) would be so ridiculously pedantic with a Diamond member. Yet more evidence (not that any more is really needed) of how far down CX has sunk. That wouldn't have happened 5+ years ago.

Would that be because the ticket has a restriction to start with? Some tickets are restricted to be used on certain flights only.

It is stupidity indeed to say that a ticket can be used on CX751 BOM-BKK and CX751 BKK-HKG, but not two coupons together as CX751 BOM-HKG. I like to think that this was just a brainless CX staff at BOM, but to deny boarding to anyone under those circumstances, let alone a Diamond member, is simply stupid.

I thought he was talking about getting on 683 or 685 with a ticket for 751.

interesting...if you were booked on CX 751 HKG-BOM, why did you buy it as 2 sectors HKG-BKK-BOM in the first place - I think usually you can't really buy two sectors on the same day separately - they'll force you to buy HKG-BOM instead (at least what I thought). or, do you mean, you have 2 separate tickets, one HKG-BKK, and another one BKK-BOM ? if that's the case, there might be a stronger reason for CX to not let you board...because theoretically you cannot really exchange tickets aaa-bbb and bbb-ccc into a aaa-ccc flight...

otherwise, with a single full-fare HKG-BKK-BOM ticket, I also don't see why they would deny you boarding for HKG-BOM nonstop...

Was that:
* HKG-xBKK-BOM (and not HKG-BOM??) on a special or discounted fare?
* HKG-xBKK-BOM (and not HKG-BOM??) full fare?
* HKG-oBKK-BOM?

Rest assured I put up a big fuss, made a big scene, and did what any DM would do being put in such a ridiculas situation. Oh well, that's CX of today....

The ticket route was BOM-BKK-HKG-LAX-HKG-BKK-BOM allowing stop-over in any port this ticket was bought at a time when CX683 and CX 685 werent around...i put the BKK sectory because (a) it was at no extra cost, and (b) it gave me the choice incase i wanted to break the journey, or stop over in bKK or just go straight thru to BOM.....funny those BOM-HKG booked was not a problem, but HK-BOM booking they insisted needed to be HKg-BKK-BOM even if its the same flight and same day....

That is what I thought. If HKG-xBKK-BOM, it did not make sense because it should be HKG-BOM instead. If you had HKG-BKK-BOM, i.e. oBKK, changing to HKG-BOM would be a reroute and normally forbidden. You could change to another day because this was not the first segment on your ticket.