Absolutely NO because LAX is an AA hub whereas SFO is quite limtied. Unless you connect onto UA, then that is different. But if you do connect on UA, you might as weel fly UA all the way.

Not necessarily an affect of the loadings caused by one another. However I do belive the daytime SFO-HKG flight will perform better than the daytime LAX-HKG by the fact that their is higher demand of O/D traffic on SFO-HKG than O/D on LAX-HKG. Hence you are seeing three carriers (and four soon when O8 enters the market) as oppose to just two on the latter. Also once the new SFO-HKG flight commences there will be more nonstop flights to HKG ex-SFO than ex-LAX.

2nd SFO flight lauched before 28 Oct Sked Change
 

1. Latest rumours have O8 going to Australia next. Of course, all we have on Flyer Talk are rumours and Cologne, Oakland or Chicago could be next.

2. It's interesting that the 2nd flight to SFO would be launched on 18 Oct rather than 28 Oct (the traditional schedule change). I wonder if this is due to the heavy traffic into HKG in Oct with wall-to-wall trade shows? If so, I would have thought they would start the flight around 11 Oct to take advantage of the heavy traffic. The last 2 weeks in October are almost impossible to get into HKG by air or get a hotel for any price.

3. As of today (Monday 23 Jul) this 2nd flight to SFO isn't in any CRS such as Amadeus. Maybe they will make some changes before the flight is officially for sale? I tried to book some free award seats as soon as I saw this flight posted on FlyerTalk and was very disappointed as I was told it is not for sale yet even though it shows on the CX website.

And wasn't this 2nd service going to be on the 773ER?

Personally, I would prefer CX870 leave at 2345 (instead of 1410) to give an entire day and evening in HKG and land in SFO around 2000.

Good to see CX having 9-10 dailies to North America.

What are you talking about? Did a dummy booking on expedia, zuji, etc and the flight is on sale already. Maybe not for award, but for revenue tickets they are definately on sale.

CX has already done a press release of the flight. Why would they do so if they are not available for sale?

Just did a dummy booking on the cx site. The flights are DEFINATELY ON SALE.

CX HKG-SFO flight not showing in CRS
 

It's strange that they have not put the flight into the CRS systems. Normally, new flights show up in CRS before the airline announces them to the public.

We have direct access to the CX reservation system in Amadeus. Someone should let CX know they aren't going to get many bookings if the flights doesn't show in CRS. I don't know about Galileo, Sabre or Worldspan, but this is what Amadeus shows as of 0700/23 Jul BKK time. (I've been checking Amadeus since this was announced on FlyerTalk on 19 Jul (4 days ago).

28OCT-SU-12M HKGSFO(HKGQSF) ** PT SC1
SFO ALTERNATE OAK SJC
1.X6 #CX 872 F A J C D I Y B HKGSFO- 430P 125P 744 DD0
EFF 28OCT DIS 02NOV
2.6 #CX 872 F A J C D I Y B HKGSFO- 430P 125P 744 DD0
EFF 03NOV DIS 03NOV
3.DLY #CX 872 F A J C D I Y B HKGSFO- 430P1225P 744 DD0
EFF 04NOV DIS 08MAR
>

Try this: http://www.publicbackup.com/shared/f.../availability/

It is showing on this system.

Agreed. The demand of LA residents wanting to visit relatives in HK is just very low. Family/relative ties between LA & HK is also very low.

Yes -- I like the CX 880 to LAX (which lets me connect on to JFK and arrive the next morning). Having another option via SFO would probably be nice.
Plus, it seems like the aircraft will sit on the ground for quite some time in SFO before the late-night departure. Do they do maintenance or something?

If you are referring to the aircraft for CX870, then no. That aircraft will only sit in SFO for only 2 hours and then do the turn around back to HKG as CX879 around lunch time. The a/c that will sit extensively for the night CX873 is the one that arrives as CX872 which CX has done routinely for quite a long time already.

Interestingly if CX879 is delayed for departure (either caused by domino effect of the late incoming CX870 or for any other reasons) and CX872 arrives early from the scheduled time, we can be seeing 2 CX 744s parked at the SFO int'l terminal at the same time. Don't know if SFO has enough gates or can handle two CX 744s at the same time during that particular time frame.

There are not that many international flights in and out of SFO at the same time. With the two concourses, there should be enough gates. I assume that passengers will be boarding the new flight at Gate A6. If so, it may affect the incoming BA flight should there be any delay, especially during summer hours.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe CX flights are only at concourse A and are only confined to that concourse. So even if gates are available at concourse G, they won't be relegated to that section. At SFO, I've never seen airlines assigned at concourse A (i.e. CX, BA) have their a/c's parked at the G concourse or airlines assigned at concourse G (i.e. SQ) have their a/c's parked at concourse A.

I have always boarded CX873 in Concourse A. The BA lounge is also in Concourse A. For disembarking, I don't think that is always the case. I remembered I entered the custom area in both sides before - at least I thought I came out the other door at least twice. The airport should be able to make arrangements and move the plane around if needed.

I hope CX can park at Gate A6. Boarding is much more convenient. However, with the BA flight departing about three hours later during summer, I don't know if that can be arranged.

Of all the many times I've taken CX872, we always disembarked at concourse A. Never at G. Very interesting!

Does anyone know why CX has scheduled the new HKG-SFO flight to depart only 2 hrs 15min earlier from the current CX872? It seems rather strange that two 744s going the same route & direction will only be departing 2 hrs 15min apart from one another. :confused: