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neuro0 Jun 29, 2007 9:24 am
fare rule help
 
I got this fare rule from expedia.
Just wondering anyone know this is refundable fare? Any change fee?
I can't find it anywhere.

Thanks!

PHP Code:
Fare rules and restrictions
Please review the rules and restrictions listed below.
When you purchase your ticket, you agree to these rules and restrictions.
 1  Rules and restrictions
Cathay Pacific
From: Taipei, Taiwan (TPE-All Airports)
To: New York, NY (JFK-Kennedy)
(and return)
Fare Basis Code: DR

    V FARE BASIS     BK    FARE   TRAVEL-TICKET AP  MINMAX  RTG
  1   DR             D‡R  8667.00     ----      -    -/  - PA01
PASSENGER TYPE-ADT                 AUTO PRICE-YES              
FROM-TPE TO-NYC    CXR-CX    TVL-11NOV07  RULE-5000 IPRP/3
FARE BASIS-DR                NORMAL FARE  DIS-N   VENDOR-ATP
FARE TYPE-BS      RT-2ND LEVEL BUSINESS CLASS UNRESTRICTED
TWD   120203  CONS  E10JUN07 D-INFINITY   FC-DR  FN-     
SYSTEM DATES - CREATED 10JUN07/1653  EXPIRES INFINITY
 
50.RULE APPLICATION AND OTHER CONDITIONS
   NORTH/CENTRAL PACIFIC NORMAL FARES
   APPLICATION
    AREA
     THESE FARES APPLY 
      BETWEEN UNITED STATES AND AREA 3.
    CLASS OF SERVICE
     THESE FARES APPLY FOR FIRST/BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS
      SERVICE.
    TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
     THIS RULE GOVERNS ONE-WAY AND ROUND-TRIP FARES.
     FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
      ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
    CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
     THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
      CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
      THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
      AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
      WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
      FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER$S BEST
      JUDGEMENT.
01.ELIGIBILITY
   NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
02.DAY/TIME
   NO DAY/TIME TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
03.SEASONALITY
   NO SEASONAL TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
04.FLIGHT APPLICATION
   NO FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
05.ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING
   NO ADVANCE RESERVATIONS/TICKETING REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
06.MINIMUM STAY
   NO MINIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
07.MAXIMUM STAY
   NO MAXIMUM STAY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.
08.STOPOVERS
   UNLIMITED FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED.
09.TRANSFERS
   UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
   FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
   THE FARE COMPONENT.
10.COMBINATIONS
    
    FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS WITH
    ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF TO
    FORM ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS.
    ADD-ONS PERMITTED.
   END-ON-END
     END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
     COMPONENTS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE
     TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
   OPEN JAWS
     FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
     WITH ANY FARE FOR ANY CARRIER IN ANY RULE AND
     TARIFF.
     -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
      A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
      PERMITTED.
11.BLACKOUT DATES
   NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.
12.SURCHARGES
   SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 33 WILL BE ADDED TO THE
   APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM HONG KONG SAR
   CHINA.
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
             SURCHARGES
          /1/  SECURITY CHARGE
               /A/  A SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE OF HKD33 WILL
                    COLLECTED FROM EACH PASSENGER OF ANY AGE
                    DURING TICKET ISSUANCE WORLDWIDE FOR
                    DEPARTURE OUT OF HONG KONG.
               /B/  THE AMOUNT TO BE CHARGED WILL BE
                    FARE CALCULATION AS IN -Q- SURCHARGE  BY
                    CONVERTING HKD33 INTO NUC USING THE
                    IATA RATE OF EXCHANGE /IROE/.
               /C/  THE SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE WILL APPLY
                    PASSENGERS DEPARTING HONG KONG INCLUDING
                PASSENGERS WITH STOPOVER/S/ IN HONG KONG.
           /D/  THE SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE HKD33 SHALL
                ALL TYPES OF PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING OR
                HK SAR REGARDLESS OF CLASS OF TRAVEL AND THE
                OF FARE USED INCLUDING CH/IN/AD/ID/FOC
                THIS CHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY EXEMPTION.
           /E/  THE HK SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE IS
                AND APPLICABLE TO INTERLINE SERVICE CHARGE.
13.ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL
   ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.
14.TRAVEL RESTRICTIONS
   NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
15.SALES RESTRICTIONS
   NO SALES RESTRICTIONS APPLY.
16.PENALTIES
   NO PENALTIES APPLY.
17.HIP/MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS
   NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.
18.TICKET ENDORSEMENTS
   TICKET ENDORSEMENT NOT REQUIRED.
19.CHILDREN DISCOUNTS
   CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75
     PERCENT OF THE FARE.
         TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
     MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
       COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
   OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
          CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
              TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
          MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
            COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
   OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 6-11 - CHARGE 100
          PERCENT OF THE FARE.
   OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
          PERCENT OF THE FARE.
              TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
          MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
            COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
20.TOUR CONDUCTOR DISCOUNTS
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
          AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
21.AGENT DISCOUNTS
         NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
          DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
          AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.
22.ALL OTHER DISCOUNTS
   NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.
23.MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
   NO PROVISIONS APPLY.
25.FARE BY RULE
   NOT APPLICABLE.
26.GROUPS
   NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.
27.TOURS
   NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.
28.VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY
   NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.
29.DEPOSITS
   NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.
35.NEGOTIATED FARES
   NOT APPLICABLE.
IC.INTERNATIONAL CONSTRUCTION
 
** ADDONS FOR INFORMATION ONLY **
FARE--RT
                            PUBLISHED AMOUNT   CONVERTED AMOUNT
ADDON      CITIES  F/B      CUR                VIA NUC
PUBLISHED  TPE-LAX DR       TWD        88648   TWD       88648 
ADDON DST  LAX-NYC DR       USD       958.00   TWD       31555 
           ATP ZONE 40      ADD-ON TARIFF PUSA/996

ak333 Jun 29, 2007 2:34 pm
Fully refundable, no change fee provided that the original booking code (D) is still available.

jwrhn Jun 29, 2007 2:34 pm
Its refundable with no change fee...

neuro0 Jun 29, 2007 3:15 pm
Is it because of point 16?

16.PENALTIES
NO PENALTIES APPLY.

:confused:

Thanks

jwrhn Jun 29, 2007 4:27 pm
Itd a D fare bucket (business class) the R means refundable. If you see a NR in the fare basis then its generally nonfefundable. Also it states there are no restrictions e.g. refundable.

KVS Jun 29, 2007 4:51 pm
Originally Posted by jwrhn (Post 7979493)
Itd a D fare bucket (business class) the R means refundable.
R means that the DR fare ($3667) is valid on a round-trip basis only. The One-Way fare (D) is more expensive ($2336):

[KVS Availability Tool 2.8.4/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US/USD]
Code:
TPE  Taipei Chiang Kai Shek TW [RCTP]
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA EWR
SUN  01 Jul 2007 / OW

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
CX        TPE    NYC    1737  USD                      YX2
CX        TPE    NYC    2336  USD                      D

G-man82 Nov 22, 2007 8:24 pm
Fare Basis Codes
 
Found this thread and I realize I'm having a similar issue. CX fares to HKG from JFK are really high on the CX website for travel between Dec 1-31st. But I found a website that has decent Y-class fares. But, it doesn't give me the booking code when I check the fare rules. Instead it gives me the Fare Basis Code, which is : "MWKEDCC" to HKG and "MXMIDCC" returning to JFK.

Can I assume that those are M booking codes and therefore eligible for mileage?

TerryK Nov 22, 2007 8:41 pm
Originally Posted by G-man82 (Post 8775994)
Found this thread and I realize I'm having a similar issue. CX fares to HKG from JFK are really high on the CX website for travel between Dec 1-31st. But I found a website that has decent Y-class fares. But, it doesn't give me the booking code when I check the fare rules. Instead it gives me the Fare Basis Code, which is : "MWKEDCC" to HKG and "MXMIDCC" returning to JFK.

Can I assume that those are M booking codes and therefore eligible for mileage?
CX doesn't always use the first letter of the fare basis as booking code. Your booking code is M or lower. It is the booking code which determines mileage eligibility. You need to call. :(


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