:confused: LOL so all of these are budget airlines?

• ANA
• EVA Air
• Hainan
• JAL
• Singapore Airlines
• Korean Air
• Qatar Airways
• Air Canada
• Air France
• Air New Zealand
• British Airways
• China Airlines
• China Southern
• KLM
• American Airlines
• Qantas
• Thai
• Turkish
• Vietnam Airlines
• Virgin Atlantic
• United
• Etihad

apart from JAL and airlines that still have older A330s
They all are used on their lowest yielding long haul routes or have substandard product compared to older A380s and 777s

its a narrower and cheaper plane than the A350 with the same seat capacity.
of course it's a budget option....

its no surprise that it's the preferred aircraft of Budget airlines.

how many budget airlines have the A350?!!!

British Airways is a budget airline. Why would anyone fly them unless they are on a budget? :)

News today revealed that delivery of 777X is further pushed back to 2027 instead of the already delayed 2026.

Good luck CX. Maybe it’s time to bargain something more with Boeing, and duly consider leasing more long haul planes.

the 787-8 is pretty rubbish, and the 787-9 is so common around the world its not fun, tho the 787-10 has pretty high capacity, dont think its for low yield routes. but most have newer cabins than 380 and 777, so im confused about the substandard product claim. plus A359 certainly has a bit more capacity than 789.

tho i agree the 787 isnt that good especially the windows, narrow cabin width stopping better long haul products from coming out, and more. furthermore its already 14 years old and i dont seem to see any upgrades boeing made since 2011, unlike the A330neo and A350 that is constantly getting new features, mtow etc.

I'm still glad CX is a rare airline to not buy the 787, hope that continues, especially considering 787 orders are going crazy (400+ this year i believe), and the 787 gets even more common, CX could stand out another way with not having 787.

as for the 777X, if it comes within 2030 i will be suprised.

And how likely will it be pushed back further from 2027 again? This is not looking good. Hopefully this affects CX's upcoming widebody order (e.g. more A350's :) )

"airlines that still have A330s" is a lot of them to begin with (BR AC KL KE TK QF, all of which have nice/nicer products on the 787 I might add), but I'll bite regardless: NZ VN UA EY all have modern products on the 787 as well without operating A330s

the 787 is slightly smaller than the A350 and has lower operating costs. that doesn't make it a budget option - is the A321neo a budget option by that definition?

quite a few? multiple small French airlines that stuff 10 seats in a row?

The 787 and A350 are both technologically advanced planes. The 787-9 is the best-selling widebody aircraft in history by far for a reason. I personally don't find the A350 better than the 787 overall (if not in economy it either doesn't matter or if in premium economy the 787 has wider seats), but at any rate your suggestions are kind of ridiculous to be honest. As a matter of fact, CX and DL are the only two airlines with more than 100 widebodies to not operate 787s, but the 787-10 fits for both. (AA UA NH are the three to not operate A350s.)

NZ 787s are not premium.
squashed and substandard.

CX should stick with the A350 /777x
Stay away from substandard aircraft that no airline puts on their flagship routes and is the most popular widebody for LCCs

787, A330neo, A350 are all fine aircrafts, as long as CX provides sufficient pitch. Stop the A321neo sardine pitch nonsense.

its unlikely CX would order the 787 (i hope not, CX is one of the only airlines without it), because it already ordered A339, and they could have ordered it a long time ago. A359 is similar in size to B78X (and both have really long queues). dont understand why the rumors keep saying CX would buy 787, maybe boeing is convincing CX to do it.

another problem is whether the 777X could be flying by 2030 at this point.

Agree. CX would have done 787 like 5-7 years ago if truly interested in -10. Dreamliner is designed more for economics than pax comfort, and it took years’ improvement if not decade to make it work, with continued improvement of -9 and launch of -10.

There’s no point going for a totally new platform if CX can maintain its operational efficiency with 330. I don’t think anyone would disagree that CX is one of the most successful 330 operators in the history, if not the #1.

My best guess: A350-1000 in a combination of high-density and long-haul configuration.

If you think CX cares about pax comfort in the back, you have a short memory at best - they were one of the earliest to adopt 10-abreast on 777s in the region and the first for airlines of their caliber (and even when considering some competitors that arguably weren't/aren't in their tier).

NZ's hard product is not better on the 777s than the 787s lol so you're not making a meaningful point here.

This has to be ragebait lmao. CX only began introducing 10-abreast in 2018. They were one of the last to adopt it, for airlines of any tier or caliber. I believe the only airline to make the switch after CX is KE in 2019, and of course SQ which never did, presumably because didn't realize that they would be operating their 77Ws for so long that it could be financially worthwhile to retrofit.

The other top economy class airlines according to Skytrax:
2. Qatar (switched in 2015)
3. SQ (never)
4. ANA (~2012)
5. JAL (~2013)
6. BR (~2018)
7. EK (1996)
8. Starlux (N/A)
9. Hainan (N/A)
10. Turkish (~2010)

I don’t think TK or JAL have 10 abreast on their international B777 craft.