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Cathay Flight Attendant Allocation
How many flight attendants does Cathay assign per flight depending on aircraft and how many to each cabin?
Interested on how Cathay is semi-understaffed on some flights, causing some slow services. |
I believe that the basic regulation is that it must satisfy both at least one for every emergency exit and one for every 50 passengers.
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It depends. Use long haul as an example, the 777s have 3 different configurations and the 350s have 2. I'll leave the specific numbers to others who are much more knowledgeable than me.
In regards to the (occasional) slow service, it is a combination of lack of manpower and expertise. CX did add an extra crew member for certain routes in 2024, but it is still challenging for the crew. The crew was, and is still, very green. You only need 6 months of experience in EY to work in J. Some of us here have probably spent more time interacting with the iPads than the new BCs. Most of the time, I don't think it's the newbie's fault, but more of a testament to the structural problems of CX. |
Originally Posted by cxwaterboy
(Post 36896349)
In regards to the (occasional) slow service, it is a combination of lack of manpower and expertise. |
I would say Cathay's BC service is mostly CC members figuring how to use the ipad. I think in all classes they're still missing some manpower, and it's just interesting to see if Cathay is runing on minimum crew
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Originally Posted by PaulC852
(Post 36896342)
I believe that the basic regulation is that it must satisfy both at least one for every emergency exit and one for every 50 passengers.
Have read of low budget airlines reducing a few seats so can have 1 less crew. |
CX doesn't run anything close to minimum crew - for example, a 4 class 77W
CX: F6J53W34Y201 = 294, 13 crew (-1 since pre covid) AA: F8J52W28Y216 = 304, 11 crew In J, AA still manages to get the service done in significantly less time, particulairly during breakfast. |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 36897651)
Or 50 seats? My understanding it is seats and not the number of passengers on a particular flight.
Have read of low budget airlines reducing a few seats so can have 1 less crew. |
Originally Posted by B-HQC
(Post 36897696)
CX doesn't run anything close to minimum crew - for example, a 4 class 77W
CX: F6J53W34Y201 = 294, 13 crew (-1 since pre covid) AA: F8J52W28Y216 = 304, 11 crew In J, AA still manages to get the service done in significantly less time, particulairly during breakfast. |
Originally Posted by Mwenenzi
(Post 36897651)
Or 50 seats? My understanding it is seats and not the number of passengers on a particular flight.
Have read of low budget airlines reducing a few seats so can have 1 less crew. |
Originally Posted by B-HQC
(Post 36897696)
CX doesn't run anything close to minimum crew - for example, a 4 class 77W
CX: F6J53W34Y201 = 294, 13 crew (-1 since pre covid) AA: F8J52W28Y216 = 304, 11 crew In J, AA still manages to get the service done in significantly less time, particulairly during breakfast. On my last A359 J flight to LHR there was about the same crew compared to QR A359 nevertheless the whole service was a circus show of frantic disorganisation. Something with lack of training and/or unoptimised (or inconsistently executed) SOPs.
Originally Posted by natbread
(Post 36897629)
I would say Cathay's BC service is mostly CC members figuring how to use the ipad. I think in all classes they're still missing some manpower, and it's just interesting to see if Cathay is runing on minimum crew
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On an A350 to London this week, crew seemed to be very swift and even sort of joyously proceeding through the cabin with great communication with one another. Didn't seem to be insufficient staff.
One thing I do find a bit odd in Y though is if you order a mixed drink they always have to write it down and come back much later; I haven't experienced that on other airlines but to be fair I haven't ordered a mixed drink on another carrier in awhile. Seems more of a capacity on the cart issue than staffing, but maybe it has to do with staff training too - not sure. |
Originally Posted by US HK UK flyer
(Post 36902995)
On an A350 to London this week, crew seemed to be very swift and even sort of joyously proceeding through the cabin with great communication with one another. Didn't seem to be insufficient staff.
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Originally Posted by nomadabroad
(Post 36903245)
In Y or J? I think the service problems are more frequent in J class, what’s more important is also the crew to pax ratio per class i.e how many crews assigned to Business vs Economy etc.
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