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Microtat Oct 3, 2022 10:21 am

CX strategy to service resumption
 
Hello folks
Any insights to how CX intends to resume their services? Seems like their focus is on key routes to the UK and USA (excl the Mainland), while some significant markets in the past are now still in crumbles, eg SIN which does not even see daily flights.. Any info to share, if not guesses?

ernestnywang Oct 3, 2022 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by Microtat (Post 34651048)
Hello folks
Any insights to how CX intends to resume their services? Seems like their focus is on key routes to the UK and USA (excl the Mainland), while some significant markets in the past are now still in crumbles, eg SIN which does not even see daily flights.. Any info to share, if not guesses?

Lack of frequencies in some short-haul routes (Taiwan, SIN) are compensated by UO services. I definitely don't think CX and UO services are the same (and it makes award and interline bookings, etc., complicated), but that seems to be CX's strategy now.

Arbeysix Oct 3, 2022 6:46 pm

My guess is that it's more a question of necessity than strategy at the moment. And in particular how many flights can actually be operated given the crew available and other operational challenges associated with restarting.

brunos Oct 3, 2022 9:12 pm


Originally Posted by Arbeysix (Post 34652422)
My guess is that it's more a question of necessity than strategy at the moment. And in particular how many flights can actually be operated given the crew available and other operational challenges associated with restarting.

Agreed.
But it is also dependent on the potential number of pax. CX/UO cannot only rely on transit pax, especially with their limited frequency. They need pax with HK for original/final destination. Despite the progressive relaxation in Q rules and the Golden week holiday, traffic from/to HK has not increased dramatically. Operating many more flights at a loss would bleed cash even more.
https://webb-site.com/dbpub/hkpax.as...GP8EuDRyvi27r8

benmitchell Oct 4, 2022 10:47 am

I just cant see them getting anywhere close to regular service. They have so many planes grounded with parts missing and a lack of staff means they continue to bleed cash. The cash was forecast to dry up in April. Greater Bay Airlines is set and ready to go when CX folds and thats what is going to happen.

Mwenenzi Oct 4, 2022 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by Microtat (Post 34651048)
Any insights to how CX intends to resume their services? Seems like their focus is on key routes to the UK and USA (excl the Mainland), while some significant markets in the past are now still in crumbles, eg SIN which does not even see daily flights.. Any info to share, if not guesses?


Originally Posted by benmitchell (Post 34654060)
I just cant see them getting anywhere close to regular service. They have so many planes grounded with parts missing and a lack of staff means they continue to bleed cash. The cash was forecast to dry up in April. Greater Bay Airlines is set and ready to go when CX folds and thats what is going to happen.

Just on topic
01 Oct 2022 (ExecTrav AU)-->Soaring again: how Cathay is bringing its planes back from hibernation

Rounding a corner on his morning commute, Ben Connell spies a Cathay Pacific Boeing 777 parked in the distance.

Moving closer, another pops into view… and then another, with dozens of jets sitting in orderly rows. While not an uncommon sight at the airline’s Hong Kong Airport hub, it is unusual here in Alice Springs, in the middle of Australia’s parched ‘top end’. Nestled amid seemingly-endless red dirt and spinifex alongside the Asia Pacific Aircraft Storage (APAS), the regional airport has no international flights - until 2020 at least, it rarely welcomed anything larger than a Boeing 737.

But then, things have changed dramatically for the outback gateway since the pandemic began, with row upon row of Boeing 777, Airbus A330 and A320 aircraft – their once-bright fuselages covered in dust – now lined up in hibernation alongside its single long runway.
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nomadabroad Oct 5, 2022 7:55 am

They can’t seem to make up their mind how many flights they want to operate to even core markets like LHR, let alone the rest. Very wishy washy decision making at the moment with the same LHR flights being zeroed out, made available, zeroed out again, moved around, etc (repeat 10x per month)

feh Oct 5, 2022 6:51 pm


Originally Posted by nomadabroad (Post 34656370)
They can’t seem to make up their mind how many flights they want to operate to even core markets like LHR, let alone the rest. Very wishy washy decision making at the moment with the same LHR flights being zeroed out, made available, zeroed out again, moved around, etc (repeat 10x per month)

I'm having the same. Clients starting to insist on seeing me, but schedules 3 weeks out change on a daily basis.

A couple of days ago, daily HKG-DXB was showing by end of this month, whereas as of yesterday it was back to 3x per week.
Also around 3 days ago, CX website was showing a once-weekly flight to DAC from December. Then as of this morning, DAC flights disappeared from the schedule.

Simply can't plan anything on CX like this.


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