Lot of CX cancellations in December
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...gtype=homepage
CX might provide more details, but my reading of the article is: 1. CX will consolidate December flights to/from Hong Kong: “We are consolidating our passenger flight schedules for December 2021, including cancelling a number of flights to Hong Kong.” They had an ambitious program for the holiday season. 2. Of the remaining flights, one third will not take pax to HKG (only HKG outbound). I wonder what will be the protocol for those flights without inbound pax service. Is the outgoing aircrew going to remain in the plane resting for the return service? And therefore avoid quarantine upon arrival. |
Originally Posted by brunos
(Post 33757467)
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...gtype=homepage
I wonder what will be the protocol for those flights without inbound pax service. Is the outgoing aircrew going to remain in the plane resting for the return service? And therefore avoid quarantine upon arrival. Then again, the rules seem to be changing quite often - so come December who knows what the actual situation would be? This has gotten well beyond any reasonable definition of a joke |
I believe that as the passengers departing HK are considered uninfected, the pilots upon arrival at the outport still go to their hotel to rest and are not allowed to leave their room. And then they fly a plane back without passengers but with cargo, and this allows them to arrive in HK without needing to do hotel quarantine.
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Originally Posted by sxc
(Post 33757570)
I believe that as the passengers departing HK are considered uninfected, the pilots upon arrival at the outport still go to their hotel to rest and are not allowed to leave their room. And then they fly a plane back without passengers but with cargo, and this allows them to arrive in HK without needing to do hotel quarantine.
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Originally Posted by brunos
(Post 33757766)
But what about the FAs flying outbound??
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Originally Posted by brunos
(Post 33757766)
But what about the FAs flying outbound??
Originally Posted by sbs2716g
(Post 33757893)
I saw a YouTube video by CX cabin crew few months back. The FA will return immediately via the same plane. And no need quarantine upon arrival.
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 33759736)
Unless they fly back on an empty plane, the FAs will be sitting in the same/adjacent cabins to passengers subject to quarantine in Hong Kong and therefore must quarantine as well?
If the outbound pax all originated in HK, I would expect them to be assumed covid-free, so no reason for FAs quarantine on the way back. But there are transit pax on these HKG-AAA flights. It used to be that they did not even need to have a PCR test, unless required at destination (some do not if they are vaccinated). Would not that be sufficient to induce quarantine on the way back? |
Apparently China is requesting a more restrictive quarantine system for air crew.
That could mean more cancellations: https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...gtype=homepage |
Yup, victim here. CX288 got cancelled with 2 weeks of notice. It seems they are consolidating European flights to London. Makes business sense but not for me, now that I have to transfer twice as my final destination is not HKG...
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Originally Posted by brunos
(Post 33759815)
But there are transit pax on these HKG-AAA flights. It used to be that they did not even need to have a PCR test, unless required at destination (some do not if they are vaccinated).
Would not that be sufficient to induce quarantine on the way back? We'll start looking like Australia nine months ago with arrivals quota. |
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 33760065)
Government announcement tomorrow: no more transits
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 33759736)
Unless they fly back on an empty plane, the FAs will be sitting in the same/adjacent cabins to passengers subject to quarantine in Hong Kong and therefore must quarantine as well?
if there is passengers, the FA will layover |
Originally Posted by sbs2716g
(Post 33760120)
yes. The return flight is empty. All the FA sitting in the J cabin in their own clothes.
if there is passengers, the FA will layover |
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 33760065)
Government announcement tomorrow: no more transits
We'll start looking like Australia nine months ago with arrivals quota.
Originally Posted by sxc
(Post 33760115)
Is this true or are you speculating?
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 33760065)
Government announcement tomorrow: no more transits
We'll start looking like Australia nine months ago with arrivals quota. But, it is clear that transit pax on the outbound create a loophole, as we both pointed out. FAs will be in contact with potentially-infected pax. Many destinations, e.g. France and many EU countries, do not even require PCR tests for vaccinated pax. I assume that cleaning staff will not be allowed onboard at the turning point Hence, FAs on the return (inbound flight) might be sitting in a seat previously occupied by an infected person. |
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