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Inbound to Hong Kong COVID-19 Quarantine & Restrictions

Old Jun 12, 22, 7:31 pm
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Originally Posted by ernestnywang View Post
I can't see anything with any of the links. Are they members only?
HK Quarantine Support Group
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Old Jun 13, 22, 2:16 am
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You can see the 2022 history of flight suspensions here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=444158831

For those coming to HK, this FB group suggested by percysmith is very useful:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2788738214495345/
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Old Jun 13, 22, 1:17 pm
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Originally Posted by brunos View Post
You can see the 2022 history of flight suspensions here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=444158831

For those coming to HK, this FB group suggested by percysmith is very useful:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2788738214495345/
As a member of that FB group, highly recomended.
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Old Jul 11, 22, 7:15 am
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Secretary of Health Lo Chung-Mau proposes modifying Leavehomesafe to require real names and introduce Mainland-style colour codes

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...pp-update-will

as condition precedent for home quarantine:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...h-health-codes


I think most of us here will do the tradeoff, but how many of the non-travelling Hong Kong public will also feel this way? Perhaps a rhetorical question, enabling travel isn't the goal, getting the numbers down is.
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Old Jul 11, 22, 7:30 am
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so 3+4 quarantine measure should be imminient
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Old Jul 11, 22, 7:48 am
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Originally Posted by fakecd View Post
so 3+4 quarantine measure should be imminient
Note sure, listening to what they said in Cantonese followed by what the English language press reported suggests nuanced differences, though more likely its my Cantonese.

What seems to be the strategy is a strict Quid Pro Quo, on the one side relaxed quarantine rules for inbound passengers but in return China style monitoring environment.

Interestingly what happens to paid upfront quarantine hotel bookings for 7 days when one can leave after night 3 or I personally think more likely 4 nights? Self interest, I have a paid booking coming up. The hotels are not going to be happy at all, so perhaps the target date will be the end of the current quarantine cycle on 31/10/2022.

Any thoughts on this?

Nicc

Just been reading about current state of monitoring in Macau, scary.

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Old Jul 11, 22, 7:56 am
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My understanding is that hotels will have no problem having guests as long as some form of Q is maintained.

But the state of Macau and the fact that 4+3 or simply 5+2 Q were mentioned in June while not making it to the first round of rules change don’t bode so well…
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Old Jul 11, 22, 8:33 am
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Originally Posted by Nicc HK View Post
What seems to be the strategy is a strict Quid Pro Quo, on the one side relaxed quarantine rules for inbound passengers but in return China style monitoring environment.
Quid but no quo, given the regimes track record. To start off with they said they werent going to require personal info when they started Leavehomesafe.
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Old Jul 11, 22, 9:21 pm
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Quid but no quo, given the regimes track record. To start off with they said they werent going to require personal info when they started Leavehomesafe.
There's a name for that: Feature Creep.

Western governments aren't hesitating to do so, despite "democratic" control and governance, let alone what happens at autocratic/authoritarian regimes.
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Old Jul 12, 22, 1:26 am
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Originally Posted by Cambo View Post
There's a name for that: Feature Creep.

Western governments aren't hesitating to do so, despite "democratic" control and governance, let alone what happens at autocratic/authoritarian regimes.
(I'm not actively keeping track of jurisdictions outside NSW, where it is no longer mandatory) which western governments still require app check-ins?
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Old Jul 12, 22, 7:42 am
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Originally Posted by percysmith View Post
Quid but no quo, given the regimes track record. To start off with they said they werent going to require personal info when they started Leavehomesafe.
Definitely no quo

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...-b1011762.html

Looks like quarantine period reduction a pipe dream. Killing my work, so guess a one way ticket is in my future.
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Old Jul 12, 22, 9:09 pm
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Originally Posted by percysmith View Post
(I'm not actively keeping track of jurisdictions outside NSW, where it is no longer mandatory) which western governments still require app check-ins?
It's not so much about the Covid apps (despite governments eying on the possibilities it gives to track illegals, etc), though, just in general. Give Western governments "tools" to track/monitor people, and they will gradually stretch the usage boundaries of the original permissions, with or without parliamentary approval.

The moment you have ATM cards, frequent "purchase", loyalty cards, cell phone locations, etc, in the end, these items are used by governments agencies to trace down people, where they are, etc. Of course, all to the benefit of the general public. But, hey, this argument is used all over the world, including autocratic/authoritarian regimes.

See how the original "harmless" registration of Jewish people in Europe gradually reverted to the core info used for the holocaust, during WWII. Nothing new under the sun.
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Old Jul 13, 22, 7:45 am
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Quarantine exemptions in Nov

https://www.i-cable.com/新聞資訊/42701/盧...4799;需/

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An oldie but goodie...

How history tends to stutter... percysmith , you just made my day!
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Old Jul 13, 22, 11:38 am
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Originally Posted by maalloc View Post
An oldie but goodie...

How history tends to stutter... percysmith , you just made my day!
Oh Im nowhere near done

Desmond Gladesbrook must be coming https://vimeo.com/399028607#t=8m46s
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