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Originally Posted by SKRan (Post 31871672)

SQ is keeping DME. It used to be SIN-DME-IAH but sanctions changed the IAH leg.

I’m also skeptical of the profitability of SQ’s SIN-DME-ARN that’s running at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Philipp Morgenstern (Post 31876713)

I’m also skeptical of the profitability of SQ’s SIN-DME-ARN that’s running at the moment.

DME doing reasonably well. SQ's yields are a step up from what the ME carriers have. ARN tag is deserted most days.

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Originally Posted by Unionruler (Post 31876948)

DME doing reasonably well. SQ's yields are a step up from what the ME carriers have. ARN tag is deserted most days.

Yes, hopefully SQ will increase that route to daily, another reason why SQ might be doing well on the SIN-DME leg is that there’s no competition from Aeroflot. On another I wonder how TG is doing on the much more lower yielding DME-BKK route, they still fly only 4 times a week...

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Originally Posted by Unionruler (Post 31876948)

ARN tag is deserted most days.

Which just proves the point that long haul from ARN simply does not work, no matter how much the Swedes claim the contrary...

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Originally Posted by SKT-DK (Post 31877220)

Which just proves the point that long haul from ARN simply does not work, no matter how much the Swedes claim the contrary...

I flew ARN-DME-SIN two years ago, never again - I'd fly it ARN-SIN direct no problem, but the DME stop ruins it - having to disembark at DME, clear security, have a grumpy Russian security guard looking at every page in your passport, dank airport, delays over de-icing at DME, the on time record out of ARN is horrific due to inevitable delays leaving DME on the ARN leg (especially in winter).

I'm amazed SQ hasn't thrown in the towel yet.

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Originally Posted by dddc (Post 31864816)

I wonder if the "high operating costs" mentioned in the 2014 press release are code for a certain sort of extra payment doing business in Russia sometime requires and has an unfortunate reputation for. I know some business people that looked at expanding into Russia but declined after finding out the number of extra payments they had to make made the venture uneconomical. Hopefully this wouldn't extend to the world of airlines.

Any airline would have a list of cities it would be considering entering and a team of analysts to see if it would work. Passenger numbers, cargo, ground handling, aircraft and crew availability are all things that need to be thrown into the mix to see what is viable and profitable.

I think the “high Operating costs” where mainly to with the fact that CX flew the A340 at that time and between 2014-16 there was a recession in Russia
Things have changed now. For many of the airlines at the right now moment, it looks like business as usual for flights to Moscow. Even ANA just recently confirmed their intentions to fly to Moscow, although no schedule and pricing as of yet.