Bookable upgrade and AM upgrade eligible classes extended to include L and V
 

As per latest MPC newsletter. Not sure if the L/V upgradeable eligibility using AM is only limited to GO/DM tho.

BUG/BUD requests can be made up to 3 days before departure now rather than 15.

Well, all I care is they stop being stingy at releasing A class space...

And wait...who would really use BUG/BUDs to upgrade to PEY? LOL

The 3 day change is intetesting in light of the Vietnam mistake J and F sale. My bet is they're realizing a lot of tickets are cancelling or no showing and it's a mess for revenue mgmt.

As for upgrading Y to PEY, could not agree more. Who would use it for that! Not to mention with the changes CX made thrmselves to Asia Miles / MPC , it is highly unlikely people are earning Diamond or even Gold on Y fares alone. CXs Golds and especially Diamonds fly overwhelmingly in premium cabins. Especially true for Golds and Diamonds who have earned the certificates., which requires more spending than the base requirement. Hell CX engineered it this way!

I totally agree with both of you guys regarding value.

I'm just saying, in reality most 1000 CP GOs and 1600 CP DMs are flying in premium cabins a lot of the time. And higher cabin upgrades are better value upgrades than lower cabin ones. Ergo, most people PROBABLY use their upgrade certs higher than economy.

Great to finally get mobile BPs on BUG/BUD flights (for posterity).

Unfortunately, it looks like so, as no change is made at https://www.asiamiles.com/en/terms-a...de-awards.html. Like sxc, I did not receive any announcement but was able to find this information by looking at the "Club news" page. Since the news at https://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_...e-Upgrade.html starts with "For Gold and Diamond members,...," I guess we SLs are left out.

Sad but this gives me another incentive to try to get my GO back. The current upgrade award for M-->T and R-->U or even M-->U on short-hauls are not very valuable, but I think V-->T or V-->U might make sense. Sure, it's not the best use of miles, but at least I wouldn't feel bad using it, especially because a lot of times I'm buying V class tickets anyway. Interestingly, E-->U is purposely left out I suppose.

I do wonder if GOs and DMs would be able to use their miles to redeem V-->T or V-->U for redemption group nominees or only for themselves.

I think some of us here (including myself) have found that, after seat guarantee is practically gone (and now The Arrival is also gone), there is little difference between SL and GO benefits for those who travel alone and mostly on CX / KA. Even though I am an SL now and am not sure if I can hit GO again, I appreciate this enhancement (without quotation marks) as it differentiates SL and GO a bit more.

I agree. This is good news indeed. Many DMs (self included) travel in different cabins throughout the year and having this flexibility and in particular being able to use AM to upgrade to PEY from those fare classes is a nice touch for those sectors where one finds oneself in Y but PEY would make a material difference.

This will almost certainly make the difference between using my bookable upgrades and not using them. So yes, finally a useful move. I agree its not optimal value, but some value is better than letting them expire because I cannot use them on my one trip I really wanted to (J to A to Vancouver).

Upgrades from V class tickets might mean this former CX GO might consider serious flying on CX again. Though likely to only ever reach SL as QF (OW Sapphire) is fairly easy to obtain.

In any event, the overnight HKG-PER (CX133) seems very scarce (and more expensive) when looking at ways to get back to PER...

Happy wandering

Fred

More eligible fare classes and shorter request time for Bookable Upgrade

For Gold and Diamond members, your mid-tier benefit of four single-sector Bookable Upgrades are even more flexible and easier to use with enhancements made to applicable fare classes and booking time.

From 14 February 2019 onwards, with eligible fare classes for a Bookable Upgrade now extended to Economy Class L and V, you can use your mid-tier benefit for 13 fare classes, ranging from Economy to Premium Economy to Business Class. (Alternatively, if not using a Bookable Upgrade, you can use your Asia Miles to redeem an Upgrade Award for these newly eligible fare classes L and V as well.)

What’s more, requests to use a Bookable Upgrade can be made online only three days before flight departure, rather than the minimum of 15 days required previously.

With these changes and online check-in recently introduced for flights upgraded using a Bookable Upgrade, you or your travel companion, or Redemption Group member (for Diamond members only), can enjoy the pleasure of convenience as well as an upgraded cabin class.

Click here to learn more about Bookable Upgrade, or view your mid-tier benefit summary here.

this is make sense, because only gold and diamond members get bookable upgrade as their mid tier benefit. Silver and green only get lounge pass for their mid tier benefit.

My newsletter also only reads "Bookable Upgrade"... Didn't mention anything about AM upgrade...

Possibly OP made a typo

My newsletter also has the reference in parenthesis to alternatively using AM to upgrade from those Y fare classes. By coincidence (and unusually for me) my next flight is in V however as of this morning's launch date for the new regime the CX website is not showing this as eligible for upgrade. But not sure how much can be read into that given the website can lag behind changes in policy...:rolleyes:

Oh i thought it was always there..
i just used miles upgrade in a outpost airport a couple of days ago...mine was L class

Wow so this is open to all like the Asia Miles upgrade award about a decade ago.

How can I find a flight that does NOT have Premium Economy? (So that I can book a V to Biz upgrade)? Anything in Europe would do, although ideally UK. I have tried expert flyer but I cannot figure out the right search (unclear if E, R 0 means full or not there....!)

I think all CX long-haul flights have premium economy.

Flights considered as regional(HKG-CMB//India) will typically not have PEY.

Happy wandering
Fred

Now they just need to make E class eligible for upgrades..... it would still be worth it if they made the points required the same as an Econ to biz upgrade.....

Back then there was no PEY! The V Class upgrade into U was one of the best thing in the programme!!

So it would be great to get E --> U upgrades back......

Every class used to be upgradeable. Then it changed to just classes YBHKLMV. Then it changed again to just YBHKM.

i dont remember this...
but these i do

Actually there was a time it was just YBHK before it was YBHKM.

Not EVERY class, S/O/N etc... are not. The lowest upgradable class was V Vlass back then and straight onto U Class. I recall I did this and got opup to F Class for the whole ticket!

I wish they also allow an upgrade still from V to U Class like BA even if there ie PEY on the plane!

Just used V to to PY (T) for a client booked ticket.

I"m grateful for it as DEL falls under 7 hr Biz rule, but is a great use of 10K Asia miles.