Qantas and Cathay relationship starts to thaw - application to put CX code on QF
There is an application to extend the code sharing agreement between CX and QF so that CX can sell more QF flights on their flights to HKG. But this would mean CX selling seats on routes they currently compete on.
Hopefully this isn't going to be a JV type situation meaning that they can coordinate pricing and schedules and hence increase prices on HKG to Australia: https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...23-p50t4y.html |
Originally Posted by sxc
(Post 30689177)
There is an application to extend the code sharing agreement between CX and QF so that CX can sell more QF flights on their flights to HKG. But this would mean CX selling seats on routes they currently compete on.
Hopefully this isn't going to be a JV type situation meaning that they can coordinate pricing and schedules and hence increase prices on HKG to Australia: https://www.smh.com.au/business/comp...23-p50t4y.html |
Disappointing news for supporters for CX to exit from oneworld...
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Originally Posted by G-CIVC
(Post 30689498)
Disappointing news for supporters for CX to exit from oneworld...
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Some form of corporation for these OW partners finally :p |
Why would CX want to be able to sell CX-coded seats on QF29/30, 127/128, 117/118, 97/98 yo MEL/SYD/BNE? Are they that desperate to get around the 70 flight cap?
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Originally Posted by kaka
(Post 30689519)
and for those who thinks MU would join in Jan 2019
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Originally Posted by WilliamSudarpo
(Post 30693809)
MU is a Skyteam, I bet you mean CZ?
both of them are equally bad so i got mixed up |
Originally Posted by kaka
(Post 30689519)
and for those who thinks cz would join in Jan 2019 |
SCMP today gives basically the same information:
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...tralias-qantas The article is very short on detailsand I assume that QF will get to codeshare further CX/KA routes in Asia and China. The deal is very sad news for HK pax. QF was really competing for HK pax on the MEL/SYD/BNE. They sell J tickets at a huge discount from CX fares. This will be the end of those lower fare as QF/CX control 90% of the market. Hard to believe that HK/Australian regulator would allow that, but past experience would suggest .... Look at the IASC website: https://iasc.gov.au/applications/ It is amazing that the IASC asked for submission from Virgin Australia and ACCC (Australia Competition and Consumer Commission) without providing them with any details of CX/QF request beyond "a variation of codeshare agreement". All details are submitted in a confidential document that was not communicated to Virgin or the ACCC. Unbelievable! |
anyone know when’s the next round of ASA talks between AUS and HKG? i believe CX’s move to get close with QF is to better schedule their flights evenly throughout the day, and leave the ...... slots for Hong Kong Airlines, as CX will not put KA for bidding the slot? |
Originally Posted by krisflyer
(Post 30761501)
anyone know when’s the next round of ASA talks between AUS and HKG? i believe CX’s move to get close with QF is to better schedule their flights evenly throughout the day, and leave the ...... slots for Hong Kong Airlines, as CX will not put KA for bidding the slot? But I don't buy your argument. CX currently has good time slots for MEL/SYD. QF departs at almost the same time as one of their flights. But until we know (if we do) what kind of arrangement they have (full/partial revenue sharing, blocked seats,...), it is hard to say much. |
Some further information here:
https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...petiti-455655/ It says that the codeshare only applies for through tickets to non-HKG destinations, not the purely HKG-Australia routes. But it doesn't seem to make sense. It seems that QF wants to make use of the CX network to fly to CX destinations such as India. So it sounds to me that this is more QF putting their code on CX metal, rather than the other way around. CX putting their code on QF metal wouldn't create a through connection unless CX wants to sell itineraries such as HKG-SYD-CBR |
I was surprised to discover recently that HKG-RGN has a QF code on it!
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Originally Posted by sxc
(Post 30776106)
It says that the codeshare only applies for through tickets to non-HKG destinations, not the purely HKG-Australia routes. But it doesn't seem to make sense. It seems that QF wants to make use of the CX network to fly to CX destinations such as India. So it sounds to me that this is more QF putting their code on CX metal, rather than the other way around.
CX putting their code on QF metal wouldn't create a through connection unless CX wants to sell itineraries such as HKG-SYD-CBR |
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