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vj_rama Oct 2, 2018 2:27 pm

Pier and Wing F lounges
 
Hi all -

Excited to be travelling in CX F for my first time - on HKG-JFK

Just trying to research both F lounges and plan my time in the airport. I've been to HKG one time before in CX J and spent quite a bit of time trying to at least step foot in every possible lounge. I recall the terminal being quite large.

Do the HKG-NYC flights typically depart from a certain side of the terminal? Is one F lounge clearly superior to the other or do each have their own merits?

I'll have plenty of time - over 8 hours - although I also plan on taking a quick ride into HK island for noodles and a hike up the Peak.

Any thoughts on how best to manage the layover? I definitely want to set foot in the main city for some time in addition to enjoying all the F privileges in HKG.

Thanks to all in advance for your advice.

The _Banking_Scot Oct 2, 2018 4:27 pm

Hi,

Each has its own merits ( The wing has the champagne bar but the pier is more enclosed ( the wing is open to some of the terminal noise). I personally preferred the dining in Pier F ( this was in April before the catering changes)

What times are your flights?

After arriving in HKG I would go landside (clearing immigration then go into Hong Kong and do the peak ( if on a reasonable day) then back to the airport. I might consider getting the tram ( prepare for queues) or a bus/taxi up to the peak and walk down.

The J lounges are also very good ( I liked the tea room in Pier J)

Regards

TBS

mbamejia Oct 2, 2018 8:51 pm


Originally Posted by vj_rama (Post 30271406)
Hi all -

Excited to be travelling in CX F for my first time - on HKG-JFK

Just trying to research both F lounges and plan my time in the airport. I've been to HKG one time before in CX J and spent quite a bit of time trying to at least step foot in every possible lounge. I recall the terminal being quite large.

Do the HKG-NYC flights typically depart from a certain side of the terminal? Is one F lounge clearly superior to the other or do each have their own merits?

I'll have plenty of time - over 8 hours - although I also plan on taking a quick ride into HK island for noodles and a hike up the Peak.

Any thoughts on how best to manage the layover? I definitely want to set foot in the main city for some time in addition to enjoying all the F privileges in HKG.

Thanks to all in advance for your advice.

Flights to the US typically use gates 1-4 as these makes isolating these gates easier for the mandatory extra interview and security checks. That being said, Wing F may be the go to lounge. However, I have had some departures (EWR and ORD) that departed 17 and an odd 30 something gate as well.

ricktoronto Oct 2, 2018 9:50 pm

The lounges, F or J are not really worth planning too much around vs. being able to visit the city.

mbamejia Oct 2, 2018 9:55 pm


Originally Posted by ricktoronto (Post 30272712)
The lounges, F or J are not really worth planning too much around vs. being able to visit the city.

I don't disagree with this unless one is a frequent visitor to Hong Kong.

I'd rather bide my time airside even if I have a long(ish) transit (not more than 6 hours)

skunker Oct 3, 2018 1:27 pm

I had a 12-hour layover last year, so here's a couple pointers:

1) I was able to visit the lounges, shower, change, and drop my bag at The Pier J lounge before heading out to the city. Since you have cleared security you will need an airline escort to take you back downstairs to immigration. Depending on your luggage situation, this route might not be worth it.

2) Purchase your Hong Kong airport express ticket just after clearing customs/immigration. Tell them you are returning the same day and it will be the same price as a one way ticket.

3) Make sure you get a ticket all the way to Hong Kong. The Kowloon station is a pain. So, if the thought of taking the ferry over sounds appealing, find another route.

cova Oct 3, 2018 7:57 pm

Just returned from HKG last week (3 day trip). Had 4 hours at the airport on the return since flight wasn't until 6pm.
Visited - Wings F, Bridge J, Pier F, Pier J, UA Club and AmEx Centurion.

Had lunch at Wings F - inside room - no windows. Rest of Wings F is a balcony overlooking gates. Nice Champagne Bar plus the restaurant has a food buffet plus the order from the table. I sort of prefer the Pier F, as pointed out, Pier F is more enclosed. A slightly larger menu in the restaurant and the Pier F has a small buffet outside the restaurant - mostly deserts. Pier F has resting rooms plus showers (basic showers). Wings F has much nicer showers.

Nothing special about Bridge J, but I was really surprised how nice and large the Pier J was. I sort of liked Pier J just as much or maybe a little better than Pier F. Pier J has many rooms and three different food stations (bars). A food line, a noodle bar, and a desert bar, all in separate rooms. Sort of interesting. Pier F though has a nice sitting area around the bar. Pier F also has foot massages but not always available and long wait if available.

Both AmEx and United Club sort of standard with buffets. Been to Qantas lounge before - nice but mostly buffet.

US flights can be either out of Gates 1-5 (at Wings area) or out at gates 60+ (at Pier area). Might depend on time of day - but I think for security they have mostly shifted out to the more remote gate 60+ area.

One thing to note is that the underground train from the Wings gate areas to the Pier is one way out. You can't come back on the train - say go to Pier first then come back. You can walk of course - but can not use the train to come back.

celtic_warrior Oct 4, 2018 5:19 am


Originally Posted by cova (Post 30276458)
Just returned from HKG last week (3 day trip). Had 4 hours at the airport on the return since flight wasn't until 6pm.
Visited - Wings F, Bridge J, Pier F, Pier J, UA Club and AmEx Centurion.

Had lunch at Wings F - inside room - no windows. Rest of Wings F is a balcony overlooking gates. Nice Champagne Bar plus the restaurant has a food buffet plus the order from the table. I sort of prefer the Pier F, as pointed out, Pier F is more enclosed. A slightly larger menu in the restaurant and the Pier F has a small buffet outside the restaurant - mostly deserts. Pier F has resting rooms plus showers (basic showers). Wings F has much nicer showers.

Nothing special about Bridge J, but I was really surprised how nice and large the Pier J was. I sort of liked Pier J just as much or maybe a little better than Pier F. Pier J has many rooms and three different food stations (bars). A food line, a noodle bar, and a desert bar, all in separate rooms. Sort of interesting. Pier F though has a nice sitting area around the bar. Pier F also has foot massages but not always available and long wait if available.

Both AmEx and United Club sort of standard with buffets. Been to Qantas lounge before - nice but mostly buffet.

US flights can be either out of Gates 1-5 (at Wings area) or out at gates 60+ (at Pier area). Might depend on time of day - but I think for security they have mostly shifted out to the more remote gate 60+ area.

One thing to note is that the underground train from the Wings gate areas to the Pier is one way out. You can't come back on the train - say go to Pier first then come back. You can walk of course - but can not use the train to come back.

Thanks for this . I hadn't considered Pier J on my forthcoming trip, but I will now pop in for an hour after visiting the Pier F

vj_rama Oct 4, 2018 8:07 am

thanks for the advice!

I arrive 9am'ish and have a 6pm'ish departure.

Definitely planned on taking HK express train to Hong Kong station. Anyone know about how long (or difficult) it would be to hike up Victoria Peak?

Would be nice if JFK flights leave closer to Pier.

nightkhan Oct 4, 2018 11:52 am


Originally Posted by vj_rama (Post 30277970)
Would be nice if JFK flights leave closer to Pier.

If you're feeling lazy and don't want to make the trek, just book a buggie an hour or two before boarding to take you from the Pier to the lower gates.

s115 Oct 7, 2018 4:16 am


Originally Posted by skunker (Post 30275315)
I had a 12-hour layover last year, so here's a couple pointers:

1) I was able to visit the lounges, shower, change, and drop my bag at The Pier J lounge before heading out to the city. Since you have cleared security you will need an airline escort to take you back downstairs to immigration. Depending on your luggage situation, this route might not be worth it.

2) Purchase your Hong Kong airport express ticket just after clearing customs/immigration. Tell them you are returning the same day and it will be the same price as a one way ticket.

3) Make sure you get a ticket all the way to Hong Kong. The Kowloon station is a pain. So, if the thought of taking the ferry over sounds appealing, find another route.


A few questions for everyone and a specific for skunker, OWE here flying DOH HKG SYD return early next year. 9 hr layover on the way back.
- I used a F lounge with cabanas previously in 2012, which lounge was this? the pier or the wing? - I understand one is new?
- Do all CX F/J lounges have the ability to store a carryon bag? - love to head into the city
- skunker - is this because you have cleared security to go through to board your connecting flight and you now want to exit, then re enter through public channels later on?
- Any other way to store a carryon bag and make a HKG city visit an easier experience?

christep Oct 7, 2018 6:01 am

The cabanas are only in The Wing F.

Going through transit security to the departure area then trying to get back out can be done but is a major pain for the staff, and may take a while.

The airport has landside baggage storage, for a small fee. Baggage Storage, Airport Facilities & Services - Hong Kong International Airport

brunos Oct 7, 2018 7:47 am


Originally Posted by christep (Post 30287880)
The cabanas are only in The Wing F.

Going through transit security to the departure area then trying to get back out can be done but is a major pain for the staff, and may take a while.

The airport has landside baggage storage, for a small fee. Baggage Storage, Airport Facilities & Services - Hong Kong International Airport

It's a pain for everyone.
Immigration now make you wait a long time before allowing you to go out by the special channel. Supposedly they are checking you on their computer system. But I think that it could be related to some previous incidents.
Recently, my flight (not CX) was delayed by 6 hours and I decided t go back home. I had no checked luggage. It took 25min of waiting at immigration to get my papers back (I am PR). And prior to that I had to wait for a staff to pick me up. I lost some 40min all together just to reenter HK.

cxfan1960 Oct 7, 2018 10:20 am

If your inbound HKG flight is on CX or KA, you can store in The Arrival as long as you pick up before lounge closure (I think midnight). However, yours is probably a QR flight. While you can go to the departure level to leave in a F lounge, the return to the arrival level can be a pain for both CX staff and you. If policy changes, you may be stuck in departure.

You can leave your bag at the airport luggage store for a fee, or you can check in everything and carry only the essential items (passport, cash/cc/ID, phone, laptop, power bank).

mbamejia Oct 7, 2018 6:22 pm


Originally Posted by brunos (Post 30288072)
It's a pain for everyone.
Immigration now make you wait a long time before allowing you to go out by the special channel. Supposedly they are checking you on their computer system. But I think that it could be related to some previous incidents.
Recently, my flight (not CX) was delayed by 6 hours and I decided t go back home. I had no checked luggage. It took 25min of waiting at immigration to get my papers back (I am PR). And prior to that I had to wait for a staff to pick me up. I lost some 40min all together just to reenter HK.

Are you referring to the e-Channel of HKIA? I haven't had a delay using it last month. Is this a recent development?


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