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Originally Posted by 1010101
(Post 30041902)
It's been fairly well established through court cases that faults are only covered if they are within the normal course of maintenance and aircraft operation. Hydraulic faults on a brand new type is probably outside that, and you'd need deep pockets to be the one to test it out.
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Originally Posted by 1010101
(Post 30041902)
It's been fairly well established through court cases that faults are only covered if they are within the normal course of maintenance and aircraft operation. Hydraulic faults on a brand new type is probably outside that, and you'd need deep pockets to be the one to test it out.
Can you cite some previous examples? I just think every airline would be using this get out clause for any fault, on any aircraft under the age of 2 years if it was allowed! |
Originally Posted by SAN_Finn
(Post 30042256)
I don't think that is quite correct. I know Finnair lost a case in court where the court said that an air condition leak issue (I believe it was a new aircraft also) is not an extraordinary fault and made Finnair pay the 600 euros (and I think about two hundred thousand euros of the other guys lawyer fees). The consumer advisory board in Finland also states that on most cases technical faults have to be covered by the airline.
https://pointstobemade.boardingarea....ecj-klm-ec261/ |
Originally Posted by 1010101
(Post 30037879)
Extraordinary technical faults are not covered by EU261 beyond the basic duty of care.
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Originally Posted by SAN_Finn
(Post 30042256)
I don't think that is quite correct. I know Finnair lost a case in court where the court said that an air condition leak issue (I believe it was a new aircraft also) is not an extraordinary fault and made Finnair pay the 600 euros (and I think about two hundred thousand euros of the other guys lawyer fees). The consumer advisory board in Finland also states that on most cases technical faults have to be covered by the airline.
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Originally Posted by andy1022
(Post 30039133)
In my experience, they will credit you based on the original flight schedule.
Originally Posted by ernestnywang
(Post 30041198)
You can credit based on original routing if it suits you better. However, if the new route earns more miles and MPO points, one should be able to get that.
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Originally Posted by KLflyerRalph
(Post 30044020)
Nonsense. Wallentin-Herman yielded the notion that technical issues are not deemed extraordinary circumstances. It is an inherent part of airline operations and thus compensation is due. Cathay can take it up with Airbus afterwards.
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Originally Posted by 1010101
(Post 30063795)
See the Rolls Royce 787 problems.
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 30063906)
Was Rolls Royce 787 decided one way or another? I don't mean BA bleating on their top of the lungs that it is extraordinary circumstances, I mean a court or regulator saying that it is or not. |
Originally Posted by 1010101
(Post 30063960)
The CEDR are rejecting claims but i don't think anyone has taken the court route to decide once and for all.
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Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 30063978)
Thanks. Any post with data point?
If you search through it you can see compensation is being rejected by the independent adjudicator CEDR but nobody has taken it far enough yet to get a binding court decision. |
Originally Posted by 1010101
(Post 30064033)
There is a whole thread about it on the BA forum - https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...61-2004-a.html
If you search through it you can see compensation is being rejected by the independent adjudicator CEDR but nobody has taken it far enough yet to get a binding court decision. you may be right but I'm just curious to see it. |
Originally Posted by percysmith
(Post 30064421)
who got rejected? RbAA's case hasn't been decided yet https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...l#post30000039 you may be right but I'm just curious to see it. Really, nobody knows. BA are rejecting them, the CEDR seem to be rejecting them, and no-one knows what a court will say and perhaps never will because BA would certainly settle before anyone took it that far. |
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