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Originally Posted by dkc192
(Post 29351309)
I was never offered a bottle of water as a GO in Y in about a half dozen SFO-HKG or HKG-SFO flights. On a recent HKG-KIX flight as a OWE, I asked for a bottle of water and the FP came back with one for me.
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Originally Posted by benjai
(Post 29353042)
Curious as to why having/not having a bottle of water seems to be an important topic? I mean...it's just a bottle of water...
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Originally Posted by benjai
(Post 29353042)
Curious as to why having/not having a bottle of water seems to be an important topic? I mean...it's just a bottle of water...
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Originally Posted by benjai
(Post 29353042)
Curious as to why having/not having a bottle of water seems to be an important topic? I mean...it's just a bottle of water...
As a previous poster pointed out, it just beats having to keep getting glasses of water. |
Originally Posted by LoveHateRelationship
(Post 29353926)
How else are you going to show status to the rest of the plane? :p
As a previous poster pointed out, it just beats having to keep getting glasses of water. I think CX should have their own designs on the water instead of the stock standard Evian. Why not put their own logo and have them clearly marked CX DM, CX GO, OWE :) Then we know the pecking order on the plane :) |
Originally Posted by ermen
(Post 29354399)
Indeed, for me it is more of a convenience thing. I wouldn't mind if the whole plane all got bottles of water. But i normally drink 2 bottles on the plane to keep hydrated. I don't think the CC would be too happy if i kept calling the call bell to refill that puny cup of water... so it is a win-win.
I think CX should have their own designs on the water instead of the stock standard Evian. Why not put their own logo and have them clearly marked CX DM, CX GO, OWE :) Then we know the pecking order on the plane :) |
Originally Posted by cysyuen
(Post 29354498)
Got an easier solution. Fiji water for DM/OWE and Evian for GO/OWS. The rest gets tank water.
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Originally Posted by Nicc HK
(Post 29355260)
With the new BoB on BA on short haul routes unless you pay, tank water is exactly what you will get no matter what your status!
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Originally Posted by Dave510
(Post 29353447)
You've read my mind... A multi-page discussion about whether or not a single bottle of water was offered on a flight. You'd think the bottle was lined with gold.
To give you an idea, I once saw a profit calculation for Easyjet, given the number of aircraft, the number of legs per day, the reported overall company profit, the average profit per leg came out at around USD 20 (not per passenger, though for the whole aircraft). Long haul flights will undoubtedly have a higher margin per leg, though unlikely being an order of magnitude higher. So bottom line, by serving small portions water, at the expense of flight attendants running around more often, the company saves quite a lot of money. Forget about reducing the number of flight attendants, that's already regulated to a minimum amount, based on passenger and door count, ie safety. Airlines aren't that stupid..... |
Originally Posted by NetJets Germany
(Post 29348281)
I’m a SG-based DM and got nothing. :( Maybe it is because I only qualified in late Dec, maybe they do not give these out in SG (anymore?) or maybe they just don’t like me enough. :D Am at about 100% for a bottle of water when in Coach of Premium eco..and wife is at about 50% when travelling with me (GO, but some flights without her status on the booking). What I really wont mind is a bottle of the signature scent that Oz based DMs got, apparently . |
Originally Posted by Cambo
(Post 29355518)
Actually, it is. Assume each passenger drinks (the equivalent of) 4 bottles @ 0.3L per flight (long haul), that'll be 1.2 kg. For 350 passengers, that'll be (rounded) 400 kg. That water largely doesn't leave the airplane (it does leave the passenger, though ends up in the septic tank, which is only emptied when back on the ground). To haul around 400 kg of water, that'll cost roughly 1200 kg of fuel, which is roughly 1500 liters. With each liter kerosene at around USD 0.80, this costs around USD 1200. So, when you manage to hand out only half (or even 3/4) of the water amount by just dehydrating the passenger, you save quite a lot of money.
To give you an idea, I once saw a profit calculation for Easyjet, given the number of aircraft, the number of legs per day, the reported overall company profit, the average profit per leg came out at around USD 20 (not per passenger, though for the whole aircraft). Long haul flights will undoubtedly have a higher margin per leg, though unlikely being an order of magnitude higher. So bottom line, by serving small portions water, at the expense of flight attendants running around more often, the company saves quite a lot of money. Forget about reducing the number of flight attendants, that's already regulated to a minimum amount, based on passenger and door count, ie safety. Airlines aren't that stupid..... Coming soon on a LCC near you? |
Originally Posted by jagmeets
(Post 29355865)
SG based DM for the past 7yrs..got a nice welcome email when I changed my address to Singapore..used to get gifts (diary/calendar etc) around New Year and the red packets around CNY..nothing past couple of years.. Am at about 100% for a bottle of water when in Coach of Premium eco..and wife is at about 50% when travelling with me (GO, but some flights without her status on the booking). What I really wont mind is a bottle of the signature scent that Oz based DMs got, apparently . |
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