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jakob Aug 11, 2002 6:47 pm

A346 routes
 
anyone know where they'll be flying?
any chance on the YVR run?

Flying Pig Aug 11, 2002 11:27 pm

Latest word is that they'll be deployed on regional routes first (SIN, NRT,etc) to train up all the pilots, then they'll be deployed on the long-haul routes.

Guy Betsy Aug 12, 2002 3:52 am

Do we have a timeframe yet as to when CX will get them?

number_6 Aug 12, 2002 9:49 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Flying Pig:
Latest word is that they'll be deployed on regional routes first (SIN, NRT,etc) to train up all the pilots, then they'll be deployed on the long-haul routes.</font>
Wasn't the 346 certified as the same type as the 343 (despite being so much longer it apparently has identical flight characteristics to the A340-300 thanks to the magic of flight computer software)? What training is required for the pilots? Or is this a CX pilots union rule? I only ask because Airbus makes a big point out of the commonality (and no training required) ... while the pilots are "working to rule".

Flying Pig Aug 12, 2002 10:34 pm

number 6, the -600 is very similar to the -300, but pilots still have to go thru a short training period, more like a "getting used to it" sort of thing. One big difference is the taxying of this a/c - its the longest aircraft in the world at over 75m (I believe) and can be quite different to the -300. Similar to the 777, the -300 has the same cockpit, flight characteristics, etc as the -200, but the the sheer length of it requires some getting used to during taxying and the flare during the landing, etc....

As a comparison, for a pilot to convert onto another a/c which don't have the same rating, eg 777 to 747, they have to go thru up to 2 months of training, whereas the Airbus conversions can be done in a few days. And that's Airbus' BIG selling point.

Flying Pig Aug 12, 2002 10:36 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Guy Betsy:
Do we have a timeframe yet as to when CX will get them?</font>
November is the latest info which I have, but you never know, AC has just announced that they're getting their 345s 6 months later (from Nov 02 pushed back to APR 03).

miles4all Aug 12, 2002 10:42 pm

Hi Number6,

All airbus planes have cockpit commonality indeed.
This means they can be trained to other planes very quickly.

It does however not mean that a A318 flies the same as an A340-600 :-)

jakob Aug 12, 2002 10:43 pm

CX has 773 too.
773 is only a tad shorter than 346

Flying Pig Aug 13, 2002 3:03 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jakob:
CX has 773 too.
773 is only a tad shorter than 346
</font>
your point being.......

Guy Betsy Aug 13, 2002 3:23 am


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by jakob:
CX has 773 too.
773 is only a tad shorter than 346
</font>
Different aircraft manufacturer!
1 is Boeing. Other is Airbus.
1 has 2 engines. Other has 4.
The centre of gravity is diff for both planes.

Its like drivers requiring training from driving a bus and a truck.

B Watson Aug 16, 2002 9:17 pm

Proving routes for new aircraft are always close to home to deal with maintenance teething issues - usually they will have a mechanic fly aboard for the first 30-45 days and it is an easy matter to deploy skilled maintenance at NRT during the rollout period.


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