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leungy18 Mar 29, 2017 7:48 am


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 28100691)
I have never ever been carded on all of my HKG-US/US-HKG flights in CX J. Not once.

[helmet mode] based crew BS again? Was it 830? [/]

Yes...how you'd know? And uh, what does "based crew BS" mean?

dodgeflyer Mar 29, 2017 7:58 am


Originally Posted by hl176 (Post 28101507)
Okay, just to clarify, I did not break any laws/jeopardize the careers of any of the FA's because I am above the age of majority in HK even though I'm not under US law since CX is registered in HK?

Correct. This is the reason why many of my school and uni friends used to fly European carriers vs. US carriers when we were between 18 and 21.

leungy18 Mar 29, 2017 8:06 am


Originally Posted by Flame3601 (Post 28101104)
Interesting, did you have any issues getting into the lounges ....?

Where you traveling unaccompanied , i know with my son (17) when he travels with EK the crew are more then willing to give him the wine menu and even serve him "adult grape juice " all flight long , but won't even let him in the lounge as they are terrified he we drink a bottle of vodka and get hammered somewhere in the lounge ! While i do not mind my son having a drink or two as i know he can handle it and will not take it too far , he says if the crew do not give him a wine menu then that is his indication to stick to soft drinks , if the crew proactively offer him a wine menu then it is all chocks away ! When he travel with me he has no problems , but has said that only once in EK F did the Purser indicate that will be his last drink while sipping the pre departure champagne ....

Not sure with CX/KA , but will let you know when he travels with them soon what his experience is ...:rolleyes:

I (16) usually fly alone. I've never had any problems getting into any lounge, whether AA or UA or CX/KA -- in U.S. or HKG. I haven't tried asking for any alcohol at CX lounges but I remember in the UA club at HKG last year I did take advantage of the (cheap) unattended alcohol...:D:D:D

US3 are far more likely than Asian/European carriers to ask me for ID.

leungy18 Mar 29, 2017 8:19 am


Originally Posted by dodgeflyer (Post 28098237)
Onboard it is the alcohol law of the country of the carrier.

This is a hypothetical here, but on a flight where a US carrier's plane is in international airspace -- couldn't there be a legal loophole/technicality where they can serve alcohol to minors?

Aircraft in the U.S. are registered with the FAA -- a federal agency -- but U.S. alcohol laws are codified and enforced at the state level. In this case, how would state laws have jurisdiction over those flights?

Flame3601 Mar 29, 2017 8:19 am


Originally Posted by leungy18 (Post 28101690)
I (16) usually fly alone. I've never had any problems getting into any lounge, whether AA or UA or CX/KA -- in U.S. or HKG. I haven't tried asking for any alcohol at CX lounges but I remember in the UA club at HKG last year I did take advantage of the (cheap) unattended alcohol...:D:D:D

US3 are far more likely than Asian/European carriers to ask me for ID.

You should go via DXB on EK and try get into the lounge , they will not let you in no matter what. Last year my son also traveling alone was not allowed in the lounge and considering he had a 8 hr layover he was not too happy about that :td:. Do you consider yourself younger looking for your age , as if you look older then you can pretty much get away with anything regarding alcohol consumption.

leungy18 Mar 29, 2017 8:34 am


Originally Posted by Flame3601 (Post 28101747)
You should go via DXB on EK and try get into the lounge , they will not let you in no matter what. Last year my son also traveling alone was not allowed in the lounge and considering he had a 8 hr layover he was not too happy about that :td:. Do you consider yourself younger looking for your age , as if you look older then you can pretty much get away with anything regarding alcohol consumption.

I'd probably be pretty :mad:, yeah, especially if I was flying in paid J/F. No one should pay a $5k+ fare to end up fighting for seats for hours with Y pax at the gate.

Governments and their paternalism...:rolleyes: I look a few years older, around 19ish...so I've usually been fine on CX, except this time around.

shd9 Mar 29, 2017 9:38 am


Originally Posted by leungy18 (Post 28101746)
This is a hypothetical here, but on a flight where a US carrier's plane is in international airspace -- couldn't there be a legal loophole/technicality where they can serve alcohol to minors?

Aircraft in the U.S. are registered with the FAA -- a federal agency -- but U.S. alcohol laws are codified and enforced at the state level. In this case, how would state laws have jurisdiction over those flights?

I think the law of the country where the aircraft is registered in would apply onboard. I have seen many time sentences like "According to HKSAR Regulations, smoking or tampering with smoke detectors in the lavatory subject to prosecution." or "According to Japan law, smoking in the lavatory is subject to a fine" in the washroom. So I would assume HKSAR drinking age 18 would apply on board.

As for the US, I think I have read somewhere that it is the law where the company is based matters. So stepping on an AA mainline plane you are legally considered on the grounds of Fort Worth, TX.

G-CIVC Mar 29, 2017 12:43 pm


Originally Posted by shd9 (Post 28102109)
So I would assume HKSAR drinking age 18 would apply on board.

As for the US, I think I have read somewhere that it is the law where the company is based matters.

I would think so. In fact, I think the age limit of 18 is stated somewhere on Discovery, but I can't completely recall.


Originally Posted by leungy18 (Post 28101619)
Yes...how you'd know? And uh, what does "based crew BS" mean?

I strongly suspect that only US based crew would pull such bulls--t on their pax (assuming that you were not displaying obvious signs of drunkenness or anything like that). Like, they actually asked how old you were before serving you? I would find that very awkward. Next time you should fly 840/846 :D

hl176 Mar 29, 2017 4:14 pm


Originally Posted by sxc (Post 28101525)
I wonder if you look young plus you might have seemed to be drinking at a high velocity made the crew come up with a "reason" to stop serving you?

oh they never stopped me; I think you got me mixed up with the OP

sxc Mar 29, 2017 4:44 pm


Originally Posted by hl176 (Post 28103945)
oh they never stopped me; I think you got me mixed up with the OP

I was referring to the OP.

nolounge Mar 29, 2017 5:32 pm


Originally Posted by leungy18 (Post 28101690)
I (16) usually fly alone. I've never had any problems getting into any lounge, whether AA or UA or CX/KA -- in U.S. or HKG. I haven't tried asking for any alcohol at CX lounges but I remember in the UA club at HKG last year I did take advantage of the (cheap) unattended alcohol...:D:D:D

US3 are far more likely than Asian/European carriers to ask me for ID.

Regardless of HK law or US, you're clearly below the age limit in both countries.

Just cause you managed to get a glass of wine once on a flight when you were 10 years old, doesn't mean that's the norm. Drinking age restriction doesn't magically disappear when you're in the air.

leungy18 Mar 29, 2017 7:09 pm


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 28103021)
I strongly suspect that only US based crew would pull such bulls--t on their pax (assuming that you were not displaying obvious signs of drunkenness or anything like that). Like, they actually asked how old you were before serving you? I would find that very awkward. Next time you should fly 840/846 :D

Is there a thread or someplace where you can check where the crew of a certain flight no. is based in?

sxc Mar 29, 2017 7:19 pm


Originally Posted by leungy18 (Post 28104531)
Is there a thread or someplace where you can check where the crew of a certain flight no. is based in?

If you are wondering about this so that you can work out which crew is going to let you drink for 12 hours as a 16 year old, it might be better that you look up some rehab centers instead.

FlyPointyEnd Mar 29, 2017 7:20 pm


Originally Posted by G-CIVC (Post 28103021)
I strongly suspect that only US based crew would pull such bulls--t on their pax (assuming that you were not displaying obvious signs of drunkenness or anything like that). Like, they actually asked how old you were before serving you? I would find that very awkward. Next time you should fly 840/846 :D

I think US-Based crew would be more direct about these things. They would directly challenge OP's lie that he was 18. Like I said as an SL, they could easily access his profile from the iPad would would see his birthday. it's not really BS, and like what other people here has pointed out they could get in trouble for serving alcohol to minors.

G-CIVC Mar 29, 2017 7:45 pm


Originally Posted by FlyPointyEnd (Post 28104563)
I think US-Based crew would be more direct about these things. They would directly challenge OP's lie that he was 18. Like I said as an SL, they could easily access his profile from the iPad would would see his birthday. it's not really BS, and like what other people here has pointed out they could get in trouble for serving alcohol to minors.

Technically I am not siding with OP since for the sake of safety I do agree that alcohol should only be served to people above 18, and by no means is OP entitled to alcohol being under 18. But OP quoted being carded by the FP (or SP? - would make it interesting - there are no JFK based SPs, so he/she got persuaded by their fellow FP/BC?) for being under 21, which clearly isn't CX policy AFAIK...which is why I smell inconsistency coming from based crew presumably.

OP recalls 'having to say that he was' 18+. So presumably he was asked before he got served his first drink if he was 18+? And then the crew changed their mind and came to stop him saying that it's actually 21+? That would be plain weird to me...even AA crews don't 'card' me - like when I ask for soft drinks they sometimes even joke and say 'you're sure that's it?'


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