New regional business class - is it that bad?
I live in UK and am thinking of a trip to SE Asia later in the year for my 60th.
It's easy for me to get to AMS, where CX have some cracking fares. I was hoping to start in Bali and then work my way back up for a flight back from BKK. The main flight AMS - HKG is fine, but there is a 5hr leg HKG - DPS in new regional business class. New regional business may be better than old regional business, but it does get a bit of stick with it's 2 - 3 - 2 angle flatish layout. Is it just PE by another name, or do I have a reasonable chance of getting some sleep on the flight? |
Depends on your frame of reference. Compared to European and US business class, it's better. Compared to long haul CX it's terrible. Personally I think it's better than premium economy.
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Like everything it also depends on your fellow passengers. I've been on absolutely awful long haul Cathay flights in J surrounded by screaming kids and parents who don't care but also on absolutely packed regional J (2 in the last few days) where actually the whole experience was rather nice as everyone just kept quiet and read their media or watched a film.
I think regional J is fine for 3-4 hours especially as sxc says your reference point is European "J". I wouldn't want to take regional J though for a 5 hour flight where I "needed" to sleep, especially overnight. Daytime is fine. |
It's miles better than any European J class. People just moan because its nowhere CX long haul J and other Asian airlines do regional business better.
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IMO new regional business is a good seat but not a good bed. Pretty good for you to work / watch movie, but quite difficult to get some good sleep.
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To/from dps are daytime flights. New regional is more tolerable if sleeping or snoozing not contemplated
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The HKG - DPS flight departs about 3am UK time, so I assume I will still be in sleep mode.
I could fly SIN out and BKK back (lie flat all the way), but then I would have to get down to DPS and back again. I would like to try CX, but don't want to pay J rates for a PE experience. |
Originally Posted by Agent69
(Post 26355154)
I could fly SIN out and BKK back (lie flat all the way), but then I would have to get down to DPS and back again.
Given that DPS-HKG is during the day Bali time, maybe open-jaw AMS-HKG-SIN//DPS-HKG-AMS? The recliner is probably OK for a daytime flight.
Originally Posted by Agent69
(Post 26355154)
I could fly SIN out and BKK back (lie flat all the way), but then I would have to get down to DPS and back again.
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
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Given that DPS-HKG is during the day Bali time, maybe open-jaw AMS-HKG-SIN//DPS-HKG-AMS? The recliner is probably OK for a daytime flight.
I was looking at last week of October and first 3 weeks of November. At this time the weather in Bali is getting worse and the weather in Thailand is getting better. To maximise the chance of sunshine I need to get to Bali early, and then hopefully a week on the beach in Thailand later on. |
If I was paying for J, and didn't care about program, I would route via SIN on SQ. It's just a better routing. If I wanted to accrue in OW, or had some other reason to fly CX, I wouldn't hesitate to book CX regional J. As others have stated, it's a less comfortable seat than long-haul, but it's not exactly torture and there are plenty of other reasons to like CX, including the service, AVOD, and the lounges at HKIA.
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Originally Posted by Kacee
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If I was paying for J, and didn't care about program, I would route via SIN on SQ. It's just a better routing.
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Originally Posted by Kacee
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If I was paying for J, and didn't care about program, I would route via SIN on SQ. It's just a better routing. If I wanted to accrue in OW, or had some other reason to fly CX, I wouldn't hesitate to book CX regional J. As others have stated, it's a less comfortable seat than long-haul, but it's not exactly torture and there are plenty of other reasons to like CX, including the service, AVOD, and the lounges at HKIA.
I am on this route in May- what can I expect in terms of in flight catering? Thanks |
Originally Posted by Agent69
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I wouldn't have a problem with the recliner during the day if my body was working on HKG times.
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If you don't take this flight on CX in J, what are your other options?
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Originally Posted by eponymous_coward
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Easiest way to do that is to take a stop and a hotel room in HKG, probably.
I don't have a fixed itinerary, just 3 - 4 weeks holiday to visit 3 - 4 countries. I was in Bali about 5 years ago and would like to visit again. I had in mind something like DPS, SIN, SGN, BKK. An alternative would be to fly to SIN, have a few days sightseeing and then Air Asia to DPS. It then becomes a bit of an issue to get to SGN as there are no direct flights, and I would prefer to avoid 7hrs in the company of Tiger Airways. |
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