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fakecd Jul 9, 2015 5:09 am


Originally Posted by phol (Post 25090833)
Tell that to Ryanair.

If they can pack them tightly enough, Y is still a money maker. These will probably only see the light of day on routes where the premium demand isn't there - like MNL.

except Ryanair is based on different business model and cost base.

lets face the truth, CX aint selling their regional J not because corporates are cutting back on travel. the fact is consumer cant justify the crappy product for the price cx offers on its regional product... also ex hkg fare is astronomically lunatic (last check hkg hnd J going at 4K usd where i can buy ex tpe J to sydney at 2.5k USD.)

all the observations from other posts are valid... full of op ups or staff travels, a "screw you" attitude of equipment lotto where you can end up in a middle of 2-3-2 for last mintue hkg sin trip (often most expensive fare), cabin feeling like a bus, and declining service that merits its own PhD thesis.

lets not forget the fact we have sufficient affluent class in HK and asia to fill up their regional J cabin, but cx got their strategy wrong so screw them. Soon enough you will see for ports like Manila have their J class eliminated the way they go downhill.

let me repeat... a successful airline will not have trouble selling their seat to highest bidder, and cx aint one of them

1010101 Jul 9, 2015 5:24 am


Originally Posted by fakecd (Post 25091273)
except Ryanair is based on different business model and cost base.

lets face the truth, CX aint selling their regional J not because corporates are cutting back on travel. the fact is consumer cant justify the crappy product for the price cx offers on its regional product... also ex hkg fare is astronomically lunatic (last check hkg hnd J going at 4K usd where i can buy ex tpe J to sydney at 2.5k USD.)

all the observations from other posts are valid... full of op ups or staff travels, a "screw you" attitude of equipment lotto where you can end up in a middle of 2-3-2 for last mintue hkg sin trip (often most expensive fare), cabin feeling like a bus, and declining service that merits its own PhD thesis.

lets not forget the fact we have sufficient affluent class in HK and asia to fill up their regional J cabin, but cx got their strategy wrong so screw them. Soon enough you will see for ports like Manila have their J class eliminated the way they go downhill.

let me repeat... a successful airline will not have trouble selling their seat to highest bidder, and cx aint one of them

Noone said anything about business models and cost bases. You just made a daft claim.

PR sends more densely packed aircraft than this to HKG and on occasion even sends an all Y A330 with 400+ seats. In some markets there just isn't the demand for J.

FlyPointyEnd Jul 9, 2015 6:47 pm


Originally Posted by phol (Post 25091305)
Noone said anything about business models and cost bases. You just made a daft claim.

PR sends more densely packed aircraft than this to HKG and on occasion even sends an all Y A330 with 400+ seats. In some markets there just isn't the demand for J.

I think one of the reasons why there is low demand for J class in PR is the fact that most premium travelers fly on Cathay, plus those with onward long haul connections from HK, as opposed to those just flying into HK (which I think makes most of PRs passengers)


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