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percysmith May 27, 2015 9:04 pm

Launch of alphanumeric passwords for greater security
 
http://www.hongkongcard.com/forum/fo...w.php?id=15004
http://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/about...0007d21c39RCRD


Launch of alphanumeric passwords for greater security

Here at Asia Miles, we constantly strive for service excellence. For this reason, we have launched alphanumeric passwords to enhance the security of our member accounts.

New passwords should be a minimum of 8 characters, including at least one upper-case letter, one number, and one special character chosen from ! $ ^ and .
I've tried it

New password works with Moneyback delink and link
They've eliminated checking miles by phone PIN

Changing from the MPO end also updates the AM password.

alphaod May 28, 2015 1:25 am

About freaking time. Now they just need to add U2F support or something.

percysmith Jun 22, 2015 8:20 pm

http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/news/a...50623/19194667

- Alphanumeric passwords said to become compulsory from today

- *all* online redemptions need to use OTP

But I've just tested some family members accounts' who have yet to change over, not yet.

percysmith Jun 22, 2015 8:39 pm

Apple mentioned this is out of CX World - I don't see the two bullet point measures in the article tho

http://downloads.cathaypacific.com/c...30b.pdf#page=4

alphaod Jun 22, 2015 10:37 pm

I like the OTP requirement now.

michaelworchid Jun 24, 2015 12:56 am

Well I was asked to change my PW upon logging in today.

I like this change. But what I don't like is that they do not accept @ as a special character. Why not just use a common standard?

lesteryen Jun 24, 2015 1:36 am

CX's IT is absolutely rubbish.

I have changed the password last night and when I clicked the submit button, I have received an error message on the page which I input my new password.

Then, I tried resubmitting the new password again and still received the error message on the page.

I closed the Marco Polo Club page and then I tried logging in the Marco Polo Club using the new password after 15 minutes, and it worked fine.

However, when I tried logging into my account this morning using the new password, I was unable to do so.

Gweilo Jun 24, 2015 9:41 am

A minimum of 8 characters including at least one upper case letter, one number, and one special character chosen from ! $ ^ and *.
This seems excessive to me. I just spent about 5 minutes trying to devise an acceptable password and entering it twice the same. And I have to enter this on my phone to use their Mobile app?

greasy Jun 24, 2015 10:36 am

I was in the new password setup page. Entered something like "ABCDabab123$%" It shows a green colour and when I confirm it shows an error and wouldn't let me proceed.... Rubbish.
And now I'm completely locked out. Can't login with my old password. can't create a new one. what do I do ?

percysmith Jun 24, 2015 6:20 pm


Originally Posted by Gweilo (Post 25020461)
A minimum of 8 characters including at least one upper case letter, one number, and one special character chosen from ! $ ^ and *.
This seems excessive to me. I just spent about 5 minutes trying to devise an acceptable password and entering it twice the same. And I have to enter this on my phone to use their Mobile app?

CX app can retain password.

AM app cannot

percysmith Jun 24, 2015 6:20 pm


Originally Posted by greasy (Post 25020741)
I was in the new password setup page. Entered something like "ABCDabab123$%" It shows a green colour and when I confirm it shows an error and wouldn't let me proceed.... Rubbish.
And now I'm completely locked out. Can't login with my old password. can't create a new one. what do I do ?

Can't you receive an OTP in your email?

If your email address is wrong, call them. I did for a classmate.

greasy Jun 24, 2015 8:05 pm

Need help.
I'm at the password reset page, and no matter what I put in as the new password I'm getting this error message.
"Your preferred password is invalid. Please enter again with a password with a minimum of 8 characters including at least one upper case letter, one number, and one special character chosen from ! $ ^ and *."

I tried with short and long, up and small, numbers, characters, combinations of everything and for the love of god the system just wouldn't accept my new password !

Anyone facing the same trouble ??

aeroflyer88 Jun 24, 2015 10:15 pm

I am a DM member for many years now. I have encountered "change your password" page but unfortunately get an error page when I tried to enter the new password (tried and encountered this error page many times now). So, I cannot even login to CX Marco Polo page now. The error page tells me to call Marco Polo club for assistance. Unfortunately, the phone is not going through at all.

It is disappointing that the CX IT department is so weak. I remember that their new web site makeover always have some issues and now this...

FlyPointyEnd Jun 25, 2015 3:00 am

I was able to change my password yesterday morning but when I tried logging in after lunch, I got an Invalid Password error, after several attempts I gave up and requested for a password reset...when I got to the page I tried using the new password I created this morning but got a message saying, the password I am nominating is identical to my current password. As to why I couldn't log in...no one knows...so I used a new password instead.

Everything was fine until today after lunch (again) when Im supposed to do OLCI on a flight for Saturday...I couldn't log in again and the system said invalid password...I tried to reset after many failed attempts and still got the same message about my new nominated password is identical to my current password...which is weird because if the system recognizes it...how is it that Im not able to log in?

carrotjuice Jun 25, 2015 12:38 pm

This password security thingy that requires the use of not just alpha numeric but also SYMBOLS is frankly a bit of an overkill.

Even banks' online banking don't require symbols!

Wonder what made CX swing the pendulum too far, requiring OTP for redemptions for instance. Have there been many fraudulent redemptions in recent years?

cxfan1960 Jun 25, 2015 6:48 pm


Originally Posted by carrotjuice (Post 25026684)
This password security thingy that requires the use of not just alpha numeric but also SYMBOLS is frankly a bit of an overkill.

Even banks' online banking don't require symbols!

Wonder what made CX swing the pendulum too far, requiring OTP for redemptions for instance. Have there been many fraudulent redemptions in recent years?

Some banks require symbols too, but the character set accepted by CX is very limited... even '_' is not there.

alphaod Jun 26, 2015 4:12 pm

The website is acting up right now, but I was able to switch to a complex password.

I'm glad they made this change.

yyzflyalot Jun 27, 2015 6:03 am

This is crazzy. Too many things to remember... upper case, number and symbol... i have already done a password reset once... here's to many more!

dfe Jun 27, 2015 6:23 pm

This is absolutely ridiculous--like an 8th grade computer science project. I am all for strong passwords and typically use one or two very complex ones but I like to be able to memorize them. If CX wants a special character included that's OK with me but let me chose any special character(s)--not limited to just a very few that I typically do not use. And bouncing back and forth between character sets on a smartphone is a true pain in the a**s. So now I will have to devise a new one totally unique to CX. Shame on their infantile IT staff.

cxauhk Jun 28, 2015 7:29 pm

Can anyone log into their accounts today? I tried a dozen times over the past hour, and it tells me my password is incorrect. Note - I could still access yesterday.

percysmith Jun 28, 2015 7:38 pm

Logged in fine a second ago

cxauhk Jun 28, 2015 7:59 pm

Sigh ... still no go .. so ended up resetting the password, and was given "Your new password is identical to the old password" ... so it means that despite entering it correctly (I even typed it into notepad to ensure I had caps lock off, etc), the system tells me it is wrong.

balloon1979 Jul 1, 2015 12:23 am


Originally Posted by cxauhk (Post 25040866)
Sigh ... still no go .. so ended up resetting the password, and was given "Your new password is identical to the old password" ... so it means that despite entering it correctly (I even typed it into notepad to ensure I had caps lock off, etc), the system tells me it is wrong.

I have the same experience. I changed my password yesterday, and now I can't login using the new password... CX is really getting everything wrong...

djibouti Jul 1, 2015 1:35 am

I can't even get the password reset e-mail...

sscywong Jul 1, 2015 10:48 am

I change it via asiamiles.com and went smoothly...

marcuslai Jul 1, 2015 7:14 pm


Originally Posted by cxauhk (Post 25040866)
Sigh ... still no go .. so ended up resetting the password, and was given "Your new password is identical to the old password" ... so it means that despite entering it correctly (I even typed it into notepad to ensure I had caps lock off, etc), the system tells me it is wrong.

+1.

Luckily the second password I came up with worked.

andy1022 Jul 2, 2015 10:43 am

I always need to reset my password in order to login successfully. This change with alphanumberic password doesnt resolve the weak IT support team of CX.

Poon Jul 2, 2015 7:41 pm

I mainly use mostly my BA account, but I also have an Asia Miles account.
Changed my password last week and been logging in just fine.

Poon Jul 2, 2015 7:42 pm


Originally Posted by michaelworchid (Post 25018810)
Well I was asked to change my PW upon logging in today.

I like this change. But what I don't like is that they do not accept @ as a special character. Why not just use a common standard?

I hope you're not using your email address as password ;)

alphaod Jul 3, 2015 2:32 am


Originally Posted by Poon (Post 25062446)
I hope you're not using your email address as password ;)

I think the reason they don't allow the '@' character is so people don't try to use their email as a password. I've been this way too often.

jacobsleather Jul 3, 2015 5:30 pm

I've changed mine and now my whole family's without an issue. Cathay is limiting the number of valid special characters in an attempt to prevent people reusing identical passwords used with other web services. A password manager is a must nowadays.

FlyPointyEnd Jul 5, 2015 6:57 pm

Mine has stopped working again...I don't really know what's wrong.


**update**

Placed a call to the MPC hotline, the reason it was blocked was because someone was trying to access my MPC account online. That's a little bit worrisome...The person tried 3 times and because it failed 3 times the system locks the account and you have to call in. The agent said that the 3 attempts were last night at 20:01; 20:03 and 20:05.


Originally Posted by kesler.go (Post 25024435)
I was able to change my password yesterday morning but when I tried logging in after lunch, I got an Invalid Password error, after several attempts I gave up and requested for a password reset...when I got to the page I tried using the new password I created this morning but got a message saying, the password I am nominating is identical to my current password. As to why I couldn't log in...no one knows...so I used a new password instead.

Everything was fine until today after lunch (again) when Im supposed to do OLCI on a flight for Saturday...I couldn't log in again and the system said invalid password...I tried to reset after many failed attempts and still got the same message about my new nominated password is identical to my current password...which is weird because if the system recognizes it...how is it that Im not able to log in?


FlyPointyEnd Jul 13, 2015 7:19 pm

MPC and AM now has OTPs for changes in your Redemption Group or Profile update...I guess they are really stepping up online security. Which is good considering what happened to my account last week.

5x24 Nov 17, 2015 8:47 am

I couldn't login with my password which I am 100% sure is correct. Are they even making people reset passwords every few months? :confused:

Iamhappy Nov 17, 2015 9:34 pm


Originally Posted by 5x24 (Post 25727472)
I couldn't login with my password which I am 100% sure is correct. Are they even making people reset passwords every few months? :confused:

I had the same issue a few weeks ago, had to reset password to access account. It would be nice if they can ask us to reset rather than getting to reset after failing to login.

toplayer Nov 18, 2015 1:07 am


Originally Posted by 5x24 (Post 25727472)
I couldn't login with my password which I am 100% sure is correct. Are they even making people reset passwords every few months? :confused:

I had the same issue on multiple occasions already. I don't understand if this is a temporarily glitch or if, like you say, they are making you reset passwords every few months. Either way, CX's IT system (or IT policy) is a joke.

percysmith Nov 18, 2015 1:13 am


Originally Posted by toplayer (Post 25732609)
I had the same issue on multiple occasions already. I don't understand if this is a temporarily glitch or if, like you say, they are making you reset passwords every few months. Either way, CX's IT system (or IT policy) is a joke.

Think it's a glitch...no problems here (but I was an early resetter?)

sscywong Nov 18, 2015 6:34 am

No problem as well so far... (I'm one of those last minute resetter :p)

toplayer Nov 19, 2015 1:32 am


Originally Posted by toplayer (Post 25732609)
I had the same issue on multiple occasions already. I don't understand if this is a temporarily glitch or if, like you say, they are making you reset passwords every few months. Either way, CX's IT system (or IT policy) is a joke.

Yesterday my password did not work. I did not bother with the reset. Today the same password works. And no I didn't enter it wrong, both times it was the same one that Chrome remembered. This is a CX IT issue.


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