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BakerStreet Jan 21, 2015 8:26 pm

North Pole sightseeing
 
Recently flew HKG-JFK and the pilot announced that we were taking the polar route so we should look out for a light show over the North Pole. Unfortunately nothing was visible. Anyone any idea how likely it is to see anything ?
I'll be flying the same route in July when its perpetual daylight in the Arctic - is the view is worth staying awake for ?

SeeBuyFly Jan 21, 2015 10:19 pm

The Northern Lights (Aurora Borealis) varies depending on the flow of charged particles from the sun; the phenomenon is not always visible. It is centered around the magnetic pole, which is not exactly at the north pole; I am not sure where it is these days. It moves around.

No, in daylight you can't see the Northern Lights, and there is no specific "view" at the North Pole.

Well, of course you can see all the longitude lines merging there, but that's about it.

vishalgupta22 Jan 21, 2015 10:49 pm

Do all the CX HKG-JFK flights take they same path (the pole)?

Which side of the aircraft is better to be on flying HKG-JFK for best view?

alphaod Jan 22, 2015 1:44 am


Originally Posted by vishalgupta22 (Post 24211965)
Which side of the aircraft is better to be on flying HKG-JFK for best view?

Should be able to see it on both sides.

CrazyJ82 Jan 22, 2015 4:16 am


Originally Posted by vishalgupta22 (Post 24211965)
Do all the CX HKG-JFK flights take they same path (the pole)?

Which side of the aircraft is better to be on flying HKG-JFK for best view?

IME, the polar route is more common on JFK-HKG than on HKG-JFK, although others will chime in with more data points. The precise routing can vary day by day based on winds and other weather conditions.

The times I've done the trip over the years, I can remember only one polar route on a HKG-JFK, during late spring when I guess they figured the jet stream wasn't as strong. Especially during the winter, you're more likely to take a more southerly route past Japan, across the northern Pacific and then making landfall on North America anywhere between southern Alaska and Vancouver because they can pick up some considerable tailwinds.

It's been the reverse in the other direction, where once or twice they took a more southerly route but usually take the polar option.

beckoa Jan 22, 2015 4:19 am

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I've seen the Auora Borealis out the window on several AS flights before- not over the pole mind you but outside of ANC. But it does need to be dark.

G-CIVC Jan 23, 2015 10:59 pm

Caught that on ORD-HKG last month! Right side of the plane (if it goes the Pacific direction that is).

ijgordon Jan 25, 2015 4:57 pm

When it's daytime on the polar routes, I find the view actually more interesting over northern Canada and Siberia, compared to closer to the pole. It's mostly just flattish ice closer to the poles. Further south, there are more mountains and interesting formations.

Guy Betsy Jan 25, 2015 8:43 pm


Originally Posted by BakerStreet (Post 24211355)
Recently flew HKG-JFK and the pilot announced that we were taking the polar route so we should look out for a light show over the North Pole. Unfortunately nothing was visible. Anyone any idea how likely it is to see anything ?
I'll be flying the same route in July when its perpetual daylight in the Arctic - is the view is worth staying awake for ?

I hope you were looking UP instead of DOWN ! :p

beckoa Jan 26, 2015 1:20 am

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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy

Originally Posted by BakerStreet (Post 24211355)
Recently flew HKG-JFK and the pilot announced that we were taking the polar route so we should look out for a light show over the North Pole. Unfortunately nothing was visible. Anyone any idea how likely it is to see anything ?
I'll be flying the same route in July when its perpetual daylight in the Arctic - is the view is worth staying awake for ?

I hope you were looking UP instead of DOWN ! :p

Huh- never thought for the need to clarify this- but yes, it would make a difference :p

A year or two ago I saw a bunch of lights outside of Japan- evenly spaced it seemed in the water- still not sure what they were.

tfung Jan 27, 2015 3:04 am

Have seen the lights a number of times.. Doesn't have to be through the North Pole.. Seen it on European-HK flights as well as US flights...

Mr. Vker Jan 27, 2015 3:46 am


Originally Posted by CrazyJ82 (Post 24212751)
IME, the polar route is more common on JFK-HKG than on HKG-JFK, although others will chime in with more data points. The precise routing can vary day by day based on winds and other weather conditions.

I concur. Same on JFK-BKK on TG when it existed. Flights to Tokyo also go way farther north vs. the return. Primary reason is riding the jet stream on the return to North America. This is a much more southern route. Generally direct across the Pacific.

rkkwan Jan 27, 2015 5:44 am

I have seen it on a CO flight EWR-HKG, which uses the Polar Route. Saw it while still over northern Canada, so flying north. I was sitting on the right side, but I don't think it matters.

Anyhow, the light appeared just higher than we were, maybe 10-20 degrees above. So, you don't need to look up. Just look "out".

jagmeets Jan 27, 2015 6:16 am

Have seen them from the ground in Fairbanks - and read TRs of people having seen them from positions a lot more down south from the air.

To the OP - absolutely worth staying up for if there's a decent shot at a sighting.

Self and my 'make it warmer' wife made a trek from Sunny Singapore all the way up to Fairbanks, and even further north (Cold Foot) last year. -35C, feeling like -55 due to wind wasn't pleasant but every bit worth the effort.

Couldn't, then, gather the will to take off one of the layers of glove to get my camera out and click, but the mid-drive view that we got was perhaps the most surreal and magical natural spectacles that we've ever seen.

nyccyn Mar 23, 2016 5:47 pm

Northern Lights Visible Late March on CX 831 or 841?
 
Hey all,

Flying JFK > HKG on CX soon...currently on CX 831 (AA award tix so can change)

Have always dreamed of seeing the Northern lights on this polar route.

Has anyone seen the lights from the plane i guess...ever, but more specifically on either one of those routes this time of year?

I suspect 841 too light outside? 831 maybe but probably not?

Just curious. I've only done 831 once and was my face was plastered to the window the entire time looking at the incredible arctic scenery. Can only imagine if the northern lights were added!


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