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Most of the airlines only give 100% for Y and B fare classes. Others usually hovers from 50-75%. Discounted 10-15%.
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Originally Posted by Awesom Andy
(Post 25018468)
Credit card specific promotions. Doesn't happen all the time, and you need to have the right cards (or know someone with the right cards). Can be anywhere between 350 - 500, depending on the travelling dates and the actual promotion.
It's already very easy to reach - probably too easy. While the 60,000 miles hurdle seems high at first, very few airlines these days would allow earnings of 100% with MLV fares. If this group of pax were in other programs, they would be lumbering at 25-50% earn rate even on their host airlines, and have no hope in reaching OWS. |
Originally Posted by tboons
(Post 25018918)
Most of the airlines only give 100% for Y and B fare classes. Others usually hovers from 50-75%. Discounted 10-15%.
http://www.aircanada.com/en/aeroplan...milesChart.pdf http://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/pp...arnMiles_SQMI/ |
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Originally Posted by hermanc
(Post 25020442)
Not true. Two quick examples:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/aeroplan...milesChart.pdf http://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/pp...arnMiles_SQMI/ In the OW side of things, for these fares, BA earns at 50%, JAL 50-70%, MH 85-100% (YBH earn 125%), QF earns at some funky zone based rates but less than 100% with the exception of the minimum earn guarantee, and AA is 100% but that will only last until they bed down the merger. |
Originally Posted by Awesom Andy
(Post 25023315)
I guess *A has a slightly different structure, although we're still seeing the 3-tier approach. AC has 50, 100, 125%, while SQ has 10, 50, 100%. Probably not easy to compared directly, but the CX MLVs would fit into the middle tier for both, or may be the M/L would make it into the 100% tier on SQ.
In the OW side of things, for these fares, BA earns at 50%, JAL 50-70%, MH 85-100% (YBH earn 125%), QF earns at some funky zone based rates but less than 100% with the exception of the minimum earn guarantee, and AA is 100% but that will only last until they bed down the merger. Discount economy - 38 trips Semi flex economy - 22 trips Flex economy - 11 trips Business - 6 trips First - 4 trips On CX that would be: Discount economy - 40 trips Flex economy - 11 trips Business - 9 trips First - 7 trips Whatever you think of BA's service, they're pretty much THE most profitable airline and the FFP is one of the best structured. I don't think there is much wrong with CX's economy earn rates. They need to address two issues: - Silver gets too many benefits. - Premium cabins do not provide enough reward. |
Originally Posted by phol
(Post 25023506)
Whatever you think of BA's service, they're pretty much THE most profitable airline and the FFP is one of the best structured.
I don't think there is much wrong with CX's economy earn rates. They need to address two issues: - Silver gets too many benefits. - Premium cabins do not provide enough reward. |
Originally Posted by Awesom Andy
(Post 25018468)
It's already very easy to reach - probably too easy.
From a customer reaction perspective, if CX is taking away lounge access for Silver, they should make it viable from them to get it back by getting to Gold. Net-net there will still be a reduction in lounge crowding and priority queues |
Diamond is notoriously hard to earn in CX's program compared to other programs. If there is a realignment of earn-to-status ratios, then it means to me that there are likely to be MORE people at higher tiers, not less, hence angering those who are complaining about over crowding.
The number of non-CX people with status is not going to change, since CX has no control over their programs. The only thing that might be affected is the number of Silvers in the lounges as they remove those benefits. |
http://www.businesstraveller.com/new...-revenue-based
No more Silver Lining |
If you read the SCMP article, they interview a DM member who spents US$30k a year.
I fly exclusively in J and spend more than US$40k a year consistently and yet I am only a Gold Member as I only fly 80k miles a year. I would definitely benefit from this revamp. Not sure if I would make DM but at least I know there will be fewer people competing for the same benefits. |
Originally Posted by tleung
(Post 25028709)
If you read the SCMP article, they interview a DM member who spents US$30k a year.
I fly exclusively in J and spend more than US$40k a year consistently and yet I am only a Gold Member as I only fly 80k miles a year. I would definitely benefit from this revamp. Not sure if I would make DM but at least I know there will be fewer people competing for the same benefits. |
Originally Posted by tleung
(Post 25028709)
If you read the SCMP article, they interview a DM member who spents US$30k a year.
I fly exclusively in J and spend more than US$40k a year consistently and yet I am only a Gold Member as I only fly 80k miles a year. I would definitely benefit from this revamp. Not sure if I would make DM but at least I know there will be fewer people competing for the same benefits. (the rest are BA/CX credited to AA so far, though to be entirely fair, I do have an upcoming TPAC on AA...) |
MPC can revamp whatever they want, ppl can still get OWE through other OW partners and has the same benefits. Furthermore, J and F class passenger already get most of the benefits, what other things u need being a DM or not? To be able to get into the cockpit? Or get applause when you enter the aircraft? One can still get recognition without a status.
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Originally Posted by Too much travel
(Post 25018314)
(2) CX - probably alone amongst all OW airlines – grants benefits such as lounge access and priority boarding to lower-level frequent flyers (can you imagine if AA/BA etc granted lounge access for Ruby? Or permitted basic members to use the priority boarding line?)
http://www.qatarairways.com/Privileg...r+Members.page Enjoy lounge access in Doha and Business Class lounges at select airports regardless of your class of travel. Receive two guest passes per year to invite additional guests to join you at the lounge in Doha. |
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