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Guy Betsy Aug 10, 2014 4:01 am


Originally Posted by wandering_fred (Post 23333759)
Oh well the extra miles resulting from a stopover in SIN seems to be disappearing... And CX fares SIN-HKG have never been "bargains"


Happy wandering

Fred

SIN-HKG bargain fares seem to be tied to local credit cards' promotions. This year's HSBC creditcards promo fares were very good... if you manage to find friends who have Singapore issued HSBC cards ! :D

jagmeets Aug 10, 2014 4:50 am

Actually the deals are pretty much the same for HSBC Visa Infinite/Premier, DBS Treasures/Insignia, ANZ and other cards..and just slighlty better with ANZ on 2 to go fares. But that said, inline with high fares exSIN nothing to write home about really (S$6.5K ish to the US west coast, when ex CMB fares were just a shade over S$4K).

ermen Aug 13, 2014 6:01 am

i got protected onto sq / ul on revenue ticket...

lingua101 Aug 13, 2014 8:40 am

CX used to have SIN-CGK/BKK/CMB flights. Now 2 out of 3 have gone. Will it axe SiN-BKK also soon?

midlevels Aug 19, 2014 9:18 pm

I wonder if having nonstop flights to CMB will allow CX to reduce prices. At the moment fares are a crazy HK$8500+ (incl. tax) in Economy and over HK$22,000 in Business (that too for 73Z with regional config).

I suspect this has something to do with not wanting to cannibalise revenue from the HKG-SIN/SIN-HKG segments. With those out of the picture can prices now fall to more realistic levels, on par with say BOM/DEL/DPS etc?

zhaobao Aug 19, 2014 10:28 pm

A bit surprised that CX has decided to axe CMB-SIN. If you are on a flight to/from CMB on CX, you would notice that a lot of the passengers deplane in BKK/SIN, basically the local Sri Lankan market travelling. Very few passengers originating from HKG make it all the way to CMB, and vice versa. Is there really enough traffic to sustain a nonstop HKG to CMB ? Is this a move for a potential HKG - CMB - MLE in the future ? The only reason I can think of... is the increase of traffic between CMB and Mainland China, so CX/KA would become the obvious choice of carrier.

Economy tickets between HKG and CMB are fairly reasonable if one is able to use the package price, GV2, typically in S class. Tough luck for the business or single traveller of course.

midlevels Aug 19, 2014 10:31 pm


Originally Posted by zhaobao (Post 23392547)
Very few passengers originating from HKG make it all the way to CMB, and vice versa.

I've noticed this too. But is it because it's just too inconvenient for people to fly via somewhere to CMB?

I think that this may open up some more connecting traffic from West Coast/Midwest USA to Sri Lanka via HKG.

zhaobao Aug 19, 2014 10:41 pm

I just can't imagine there to be a lot of traffic between HKG and Sri Lanka, except for the feeder traffic to/from China / NEA / Americas.

lingua101 Aug 19, 2014 10:41 pm


Originally Posted by zhaobao (Post 23392547)
A bit surprised that CX has decided to axe CMB-SIN. If you are on a flight to/from CMB on CX, you would notice that a lot of the passengers deplane in BKK/SIN, basically the local Sri Lankan market travelling. Very few passengers originating from HKG make it all the way to CMB, and vice versa. Is there really enough traffic to sustain a nonstop HKG to CMB ? Is this a move for a potential HKG - CMB - MLE in the future ? The only reason I can think of... is the increase of traffic between CMB and Mainland China, so CX/KA would become the obvious choice of carrier.

Economy tickets between HKG and CMB are fairly reasonable if one is able to use the package price, GV2, typically in S class. Tough luck for the business or single traveller of course.

I think it is mainland China factor. I was in CMB about a year ago and quite surprise there were many Chinese there.

midlevels Aug 19, 2014 10:48 pm


Originally Posted by zhaobao (Post 23392604)
I just can't imagine there to be a lot of traffic between HKG and Sri Lanka, except for the feeder traffic to/from China / NEA / Americas.

This is probably why actually they are downsizing the aircraft. Must be much cheaper to fly a 333 than a 77W. For connecting traffic they can offer same product as long haul too.

Maybe they considered changing to a 33G to fly HKG-SIN-CMB same routing as they have now, but decided that using a SIN slot to fly 33G was not worth it as there are not enough seats there to fill demand, so just bypass SIN and fly direct to CMB instead.

zhaobao Aug 20, 2014 12:15 am

Random thought / data point - when I last took HKG-SIN-CMB, at luggage claim in CMB, noticed quite a lot of bags from QF flights connecting in SIN onto CX to CMB. If you look at say SYD/MEL to CMB today, you can fly on QF to SIN connecting onto QF codeshare flight number (operated by EK) to CMB.

ermen Aug 20, 2014 6:27 am

last time i flew SIN - CMB, Y was like 10-20% full... loads were terrible...

jagmeets Sep 15, 2014 10:44 am

I see that CX711/2710 are back in the schedules after 30th March onwards.

Whilst 2710 is bookable, 711 seems to have been zero'd out. Anyone got the inside scoop? seasonal direct and via SIN at other times, or canning the plans to go direct altogether (the direct flights are still bookable till March end- i know..if only wishes could fly!)?

allset2travel Oct 2, 2014 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by jagmeets (Post 23529242)
I see that CX711/2710 are back in the schedules after 30th March onwards.

Whilst 2710 is bookable, 711 seems to have been zero'd out. Anyone got the inside scoop? seasonal direct and via SIN at other times, or canning the plans to go direct altogether (the direct flights are still bookable till March end- i know..if only wishes could fly!)?

I checked for next July, CX2710 is still on the schedule, but can’t be booked. According an AA agent (RTW desk), the whole flight was “sold out”, her exact words.



Originally Posted by Carfield (Post 23329800)
Here is the link to the press release:
http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_L...o-Colombo.html

I am happy that Colombo will finally get a nonstop service, and even the flight via Bangkok will get an aircraft upgrade - Airbus A340-300s. It makes sense from a CX perspective, as the crews are cross-trained on both planes. Premium Economy will be introduced on CMB market and I wonder how that will affect the J prices.

I guess it is an "upgrade" - not as a surprise especially UL has joined OneWorld. I wonder if UL will introduce nonstop CMB to HKG soon too.

Carfield

Seems new schedule (for non-stop CMB-HKG-CMB) has yet to be loaded. On CX web site, tried flight search CMB-HKG for next summer. Still came up with CMB-SIN-HKG on CX2710 and CX736 respectively.

October 27, 2014 is not that far away!!!

Can someone comment on the 333 long haul business seat as quoted in the linked article?

SQ421 Oct 3, 2014 7:12 pm


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 23616379)
Can someone comment on the 333 long haul business seat as quoted in the linked article?

They are, IMO, the best seats in business. No pun intended.


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