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cxfan1960 Dec 18, 2012 8:16 pm


Originally Posted by GordonGordon (Post 19883209)
So did any Emerlad/Sapphire elites from other OW airlines get any luck when checking in the CX flights with excess baggages and weight? Kindly share your experience here and let me know where you checked in your flights. I really don't wanna pay extra US$200 for my ski equipment!:(

I have a feeling that even if I get luck at HKG, by the time when I return to HKG from CTS, I don't think the Japanese CX agent (probably JAL agent) at CTS will allow me to check in my ski equipment without costing me extra even with my Emerald status. Japanese trends to do things "according to the book only" without any flexibility.

It depends on the check-in agent. They may allow 2-3 kg more in HKG, but there is no guarantee. They will not allow an extra bag. If you are way in excess of the allowance, I would suggest you go with ANA (or a *A airline).

earny Dec 19, 2012 12:03 am


Originally Posted by cxfan1960 (Post 19883394)
It depends on the check-in agent. They may allow 2-3 kg more in HKG, but there is no guarantee. They will not allow an extra bag. If you are way in excess of the allowance, I would suggest you go with ANA (or a *A airline).

I agree it really depends on the agent. I've been asked to pay for overweight baggage in hkg but in icn I wasn't asked to pay. It can get a bit pricey but compared to some of the LCC's at least CX allows something for free.

garykung Dec 19, 2012 3:04 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 19882635)
I thought you (or maybe someone else?) have mentioed this before, but when we ask for proofs we never see any. In fact, with different airlines allowing different numbers of pieces and weights depending on class I see this quite impossible today.

Well - it is subject to interpretation, but here you go:

http://www.dot.gov/sites/dot.dev/fil...EAPP_2_FAQ.pdf

Basically 14 CFR 399.87 will be the authority.

correctioncx Dec 19, 2012 7:31 am


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 19884865)
Well - it is subject to interpretation, but here you go:

http://www.dot.gov/sites/dot.dev/fil...EAPP_2_FAQ.pdf

Basically 14 CFR 399.87 will be the authority.


"In the case of a passenger itinerary composed of more than one ticket, the rule does not require a downline carrier to apply the baggage allowances or fees of the first carrier if the flight of the first carrier is on a separate ticket from the other flights"
I can see same ticket is ok but separate ticket and separate airlines = no way. ESP with etix and eBP people can fake a BP and then claim more baggage allowance.

TerryK Dec 19, 2012 2:55 pm


Originally Posted by correctioncx (Post 19885709)
"In the case of a passenger itinerary composed of more than one ticket, the rule does not require a downline carrier to apply the baggage allowances or fees of the first carrier if the flight of the first carrier is on a separate ticket from the other flights"....

Yes, that's my understanding. I have never heard of the 30-day rules cited earlier.

brithk Dec 19, 2012 6:21 pm

When I fly on Qantas (out of SYD) I don't even get priority tags! when I've complained about this in the past I get the (correct) response - Baggage allowances/priority are not covered by one world agreements. Its entirely up to the airline concerned.
In SYD even if the Check in girl adds a tag it gets ripped of by the baggage team and sorted according to the electronic tag (Y). She even showed me the screen which stated baagage = Y, and put a FC tag on. When I got the bag with the economy bags there was no tag.
Out of HKG its fine by the way on QF.

Holiday.with.Ken Dec 20, 2012 12:05 am


Originally Posted by brithk (Post 19889864)
When I fly on Qantas (out of SYD) I don't even get priority tags! when I've complained about this in the past I get the (correct) response - Baggage allowances/priority are not covered by one world agreements. Its entirely up to the airline concerned.
In SYD even if the Check in girl adds a tag it gets ripped of by the baggage team and sorted according to the electronic tag (Y). She even showed me the screen which stated baagage = Y, and put a FC tag on. When I got the bag with the economy bags there was no tag.
Out of HKG its fine by the way on QF.

QF has also happily (and carefully) ripped my (CX and generic OneWorld) priority tags off many times while transit in SYD/MEL.

flown CX --> QF internationally all in J.

ernestnywang Dec 20, 2012 10:04 pm


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 19884865)
Well - it is subject to interpretation, but here you go:

http://www.dot.gov/sites/dot.dev/fil...EAPP_2_FAQ.pdf

Basically 14 CFR 399.87 will be the authority.

Thanks for the document. Unfortunately, as others have said here, I don't think there's anything in the document that marginally supports your point. In fact, I can't find "30 days" anywhere. In addition, I don't think the U. S. has jurisdiction over, say, a separate TKT bought overseas that does not involve any U. S. destination.

garykung Dec 21, 2012 12:55 am


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 19897578)
Thanks for the document. Unfortunately, as others have said here, I don't think there's anything in the document that marginally supports your point. In fact, I can't find "30 days" anywhere. In addition, I don't think the U. S. has jurisdiction over, say, a separate TKT bought overseas that does not involve any U. S. destination.

I know. I just tried so hard to find something to prove.

But that "30 days" thing was something GA told me.

BTW - the "U.S." jurisdiction is way larger that everyone can imagine:

http://www.dot.gov/airconsumer/eo-2012-10-2

correctioncx Dec 21, 2012 6:26 am


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 19898068)
I know. I just tried so hard to find something to prove.

But that "30 days" thing was something GA told me.

BTW - the "U.S." jurisdiction is way larger that everyone can imagine:

http://www.dot.gov/airconsumer/eo-2012-10-2

Nt really, they r talking about flights flying TO the US.

It is impossible for them to have jurisdiction over routes NOT going to and from the US

ieuan1 Dec 22, 2012 8:21 pm

Part of the problem with One World on this is the inconsistency. If I travel WLG-SYD-HKG on QF and CX respectively, I don't have any excess luggage allowance (as I don't have QF status). Coming back, I am allowed the extra luggage.

swy Dec 23, 2012 1:31 am

how does this work with codeshare? I have an upcoming trip in which all flights (Y) are marketed by AA but some are operated by CX and JL. I am AA EXP; will I be able to check 2 bags for free? Thanks!

ernestnywang Dec 27, 2012 4:50 am


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 19898068)
I know. I just tried so hard to find something to prove.

But that "30 days" thing was something GA told me.

If it is something many years ago, it would have changed after the IATA MSC rule. If it is something recent, the GA made it up.

ernestnywang Dec 27, 2012 4:52 am


Originally Posted by swy (Post 19908765)
how does this work with codeshare? I have an upcoming trip in which all flights (Y) are marketed by AA but some are operated by CX and JL. I am AA EXP; will I be able to check 2 bags for free? Thanks!

Probably yes.

Guy Betsy Dec 27, 2012 10:00 am


Originally Posted by swy (Post 19908765)
how does this work with codeshare? I have an upcoming trip in which all flights (Y) are marketed by AA but some are operated by CX and JL. I am AA EXP; will I be able to check 2 bags for free? Thanks!

Unless you have and can show that you originated/travelling to/from North America which I think you would have as AA codeshares can only be sold to/from NA to Asia and not within Asia only.


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