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sxc Feb 12, 2014 8:07 pm


Originally Posted by forumpersona999 (Post 22334519)
Employers and importance aside why can you not let me CHOOSE to be online if it makes me happy ?

Nothing sad about staying connected.

How does it impact on you ? I might find it sad to see people be off-line for 12 hours without knowing what's going on in the world. Everyone has their own point of view but it has zero impact on my fellow PAX if I am getting on-line news updates in-flight so what is the problem ?

I agree with your sentiment that everyone should have the choice. Where it does start to have impact on fellow pax is if they allow VOIP (Skype, facetime etc) and people start chatting loudly onboard ("look at me, i'm in a plane!") disturbing other passengers.

I'm looking forward to being able to have data inflight, but hope something can be done to stop VOIP type applications.

Uli Feb 12, 2014 8:54 pm

sxc :)

VOIP is a problem, sure. in F, it might be less noisy then the FAs chatting in the front kitchen during a night flight (sometimes earplus do not help enough). besides internet use, you have aeromobile on EK etc, and i am sure if someone behaves rude, the fellow passengers might let this person know that his/hers behavious is considered rude. experiencing inflight wifi since about 8 years now, i can say that chatting does the job better than a slow VOIP connection -- so I do not worry about that. when i use inflight phone on some airlines, and have to yell all the time, it is much worse. so i would only do that if there is a real emergency need.

the main problem with inflight wifi is that you need to be sure to have it or not. when LH introduced it 8 years ago, the problem sometimes was how to track the availibity beforehand. if you take a dayflight, like 12 hrs HKG-FRA, you want to be sure you have internet. i have actually been not taking a flight when they told me at the gate that wifi was not available that day.
only thing you can count on now is EK with all A380s having wi-fi -- for any other airline it is hit-or-miss. and if i cannot plan on being connected before the fligth, i will make sure i do not really need it.

cartman7110 Feb 12, 2014 9:10 pm


Originally Posted by mayodave (Post 22334371)
That is just a housing it does not mean there is anything under it and frankly I pray they leave it empty as long as possible. How sad people cannot be disconnected for the time it takes to fly from A to B. Now I await the barrage of how important I am replies explaining how they need to be connected. If thats was the case I will add why does their employer now fly them private jet then ?

What a rare blue moon. For once i agree with Mayodave. And i'm involved in the IT business.

mayodave Feb 12, 2014 9:19 pm


Originally Posted by cartman7110 (Post 22339396)
What a rare blue moon. For once i agree with Mayodave. And i'm involved in the IT business.

I should have actually made it more clear about my feeling on wifi ona plane, what I really dont want to see is people being able to use thngs like Skype or any other VOIP, browsing yes. Having to listen to some moron telling people he is 35000 feet off the ground and asking "can you see me" is really not what I want to hear.

Kachjc Feb 13, 2014 4:56 am


Originally Posted by mayodave (Post 22339437)
I should have actually made it more clear about my feeling on wifi ona plane, what I really dont want to see is people being able to use thngs like Skype or any other VOIP, browsing yes. Having to listen to some moron telling people he is 35000 feet off the ground and asking "can you see me" is really not what I want to hear.

hmm I thought I read an inteview with Slosar saying skype would be banned.

They should just set up wifi and not the mobile network

JALPak Feb 13, 2014 9:25 pm

Just got an insight survey on this matter and here's the description CX provides.


Wi-Fi internet service will be available on all personal electronic devices equipped with Wi-Fi capability. Passengers can enjoy normal web-browsing, sending emails and connecting on social media network. Usage of VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol) applications such as Viber will be blocked.

Passengers can also browse free-of-charge websites such as corporate websites and e-Commerce partners’ websites. There is no limit on data usage for passengers.

Service charge:
US$19.95 for a full Long Haul flight (i.e. flight length of 6 hours or more)
US$12.95 for a full Regional Haul flight (i.e. flight length between 3-6 hours)
US$9.95 for one-hour session regardless of flight length

CanucksHKG Feb 13, 2014 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 22345964)
Just got an insight survey on this matter and here's the description CX provides.

Besides the "description", what else were you suppose to choose / suggest?

I would mention something like tiered discount for MPO members
ie. 10% off for GR, 25% SL, 50% GO, complimentary for DM, etc..

AA_EXP09 Feb 13, 2014 10:22 pm


Originally Posted by sxc (Post 22339121)
I agree with your sentiment that everyone should have the choice. Where it does start to have impact on fellow pax is if they allow VOIP (Skype, facetime etc) and people start chatting loudly onboard ("look at me, i'm in a plane!") disturbing other passengers.

I'm looking forward to being able to have data inflight, but hope something can be done to stop VOIP type applications.

VPN would get around any filtering, though, and even with access logs kept, my employer would not mind Skype...

CanucksHKG Feb 14, 2014 1:20 am


Originally Posted by AA_EXP09 (Post 22346207)
VPN would get around any filtering, though, and even with access logs kept, my employer would not mind Skype...

It's not about what you do with your company's asset or expense.
It's about the the 50+ / 300+ unfortunate passengers that have to share the same cabin/flight with you...

forumpersona999 Feb 15, 2014 2:42 am


Originally Posted by sxc (Post 22339121)
I agree with your sentiment that everyone should have the choice. Where it does start to have impact on fellow pax is if they allow VOIP (Skype, facetime etc) and people start chatting loudly onboard ("look at me, i'm in a plane!") disturbing other passengers.

I'm looking forward to being able to have data inflight, but hope something can be done to stop VOIP type applications.

No special measures are needed to stop VOIP and video chat. They don't work properly as it is owing to the high latency / low bandwidth connectivity you get on a moving aircraft.

sxc Feb 15, 2014 2:50 am


Originally Posted by forumpersona999 (Post 22352473)
No special measures are needed to stop VOIP and video chat. They don't work properly as it is owing to the high latency / low bandwidth connectivity you get on a moving aircraft.

Which might be worse because you might get a bad connection and you'll have people continually saying "Can you see me? Can you hear me?" and thinking that raising their voice will improve the latency :)

JALPak Feb 15, 2014 3:35 am


Originally Posted by sxc (Post 22352501)
Which might be worse because you might get a bad connection and you'll have people continually saying "Can you see me? Can you hear me?" and thinking that raising their voice will improve the latency :)

Was that your actual onboard experience or just your speculation? I've been on numerous wi-fi enabled flights and never had I heard any of these. Maybe I was just lucky to be surrounded by considerate passengers if that's what you have experienced before.

sxc Feb 15, 2014 3:43 am

Just my speculation. Hopefully it is an unfounded fear.

GE90-115B Feb 15, 2014 4:05 pm


Originally Posted by Kachjc (Post 22340641)
hmm I thought I read an inteview with Slosar saying skype would be banned.

I wonder if the PRC told him to say that :p

Still it is good to see what for once an HK company like CX are brushing mainland China out of the way and going down their own route to not only match what other competitors are doing, but to also provide the best for their pax. If the People's Republic of China feels that wifi connectivity on a plane is a bit too sensitive, just disable this service for PVG and PEK sectors...

Kachjc Feb 16, 2014 5:44 am


Originally Posted by GE90-115B (Post 22355301)
I wonder if the PRC told him to say that :p

Still it is good to see what for once an HK company like CX are brushing mainland China out of the way and going down their own route to not only match what other competitors are doing, but to also provide the best for their pax. If the People's Republic of China feels that wifi connectivity on a plane is a bit too sensitive, just disable this service for PVG and PEK sectors...

unfortunately CX is kow-towing to PRC

wifi was supposed to come in 2012- CX said not possible due to PRC

EK etc can operate wifi perfectly over China and too China

Yet CX refuses to do so- it is basic CX incompetence

at this rate it looks like the horrid Air India will get wifi/mobile- I am dying imagining India passengers talking loudly on phones!!


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