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jamienbaker Jun 28, 2011 5:56 am

How reliable are aircraft assignments to HKGDPS?
 
All - I was disappointed to get "downgraded" from a 744 to a 773 (regional) HKGDPS in August...particularly since the family is booked in multiple PNRs so naturally we were scattered about the cabin. I'm curious, how reliable are the aircraft assignments on this route, now that it is a mix of 744s, 330s and 773s? Is it anything like BKKDPS on TG where you never know what you'll get until you show at the airport? I'd love to believe there is at least a chance for a better product than regional J.

Thanks in advance, and safe travels to all - Jamie

jamienbaker Jun 28, 2011 9:35 am


Originally Posted by jamienbaker (Post 16637990)
All - I was disappointed to get "downgraded" from a 744 to a 773 (regional) HKGDPS in August...particularly since the family is booked in multiple PNRs so naturally we were scattered about the cabin. I'm curious, how reliable are the aircraft assignments on this route, now that it is a mix of 744s, 330s and 773s? Is it anything like BKKDPS on TG where you never know what you'll get until you show at the airport? I'd love to believe there is at least a chance for a better product than regional J.

Thanks in advance, and safe travels to all - Jamie

Whoa, and my HNDHKG also got downgraded from a 744 to a 77A. The fun never stops.

midlevels Jun 28, 2011 9:40 am


Originally Posted by jamienbaker (Post 16639045)
Whoa, and my HNDHKG also got downgraded from a 744 to a 77A. The fun never stops.

The products on 74A and 77A are identical, so not sure what you're worried about here.

Top of climb Jun 28, 2011 9:51 am

CX785/4 is reasonably sticky for a 74A (but as you've discovered not sticky enough). All other DPS flights go out regional.

CX548/9 used to be sticky 74A, but I think as more 77As come on stream and the loads to Tokyo continue to dip CX are capacity downgrading on HND.

techgirl Jun 28, 2011 10:00 am

In my experience (and this is in no way scientific), I've had equipment swaps on 50% or more of my HKG/DPS flights.

jamienbaker Jun 28, 2011 10:00 am


Originally Posted by midlevels (Post 16639071)
The products on 74A and 77A are identical, so not sure what you're worried about here.

Simple - fewer F seats so diminished potential for upgrade.

soccerpapi Jun 28, 2011 10:56 am

Is downgrade compensation offered when First class no longer offered?
 
soccer

dkul Jun 28, 2011 7:16 pm


Originally Posted by midlevels (Post 16639071)
The products on 74A and 77A are identical, so not sure what you're worried about here.

Except for sitting upstairs on the 77A tends to get a little bit windy. :D

UncleDude Jun 28, 2011 11:46 pm


Originally Posted by midlevels (Post 16639071)
The products on 74A and 77A are identical, so not sure what you're worried about here.

May 3 Less First Class seats for OW Emerald to be upgraded to.

toyotaboy95 Jun 29, 2011 2:13 am

For the DPS route, last minute aircraft substitutions are quite rare when compared to TG. With TG, you could basically get anything.

Bmoney Jun 29, 2011 4:38 am

Why does it matter? They only put Diamond status or people traveling on First class tickets (ex HKG) in those seats and it still is BC food and drinks. Unless the BC section is overbooked, they are very strict about moving people up. Only gate agents or the ISM will move people (not even lounge agents in HKG can move)

Just flew down to DPS and back this month-- On the way down from HKG I was on a BC ticket and they didn't move me. I got a nice seat up top but other than that, no big deal. On the way home to DCA via HKG, I had a F class ticket all the way home, so at checkin they provided me a F seat ticket from DPS to HKG.

Nice gesture, had seat 1A and there was only 1 other person in the cabin with me. The real kicker was that the staff ended up using most of the other seats to rest after meal service. The food is the same, service the same, just a bigger seat for a 4 hour flight.

KLflyerRalph Jun 29, 2011 5:34 am


Originally Posted by Bmoney (Post 16643930)
Why does it matter? They only put Diamond status or people traveling on First class tickets (ex HKG) in those seats and it still is BC food and drinks. Unless the BC section is overbooked, they are very strict about moving people up. Only gate agents or the ISM will move people (not even lounge agents in HKG can move)

It is possible, if you have OW status. CX status or a F ticket EX-HKG aren't necessarily needed.
See this TR

jamienbaker Jun 29, 2011 6:24 am


Originally Posted by Bmoney (Post 16643930)
Why does it matter? They only put Diamond status or people traveling on First class tickets (ex HKG) in those seats and it still is BC food and drinks. Unless the BC section is overbooked, they are very strict about moving people up. Only gate agents or the ISM will move people (not even lounge agents in HKG can move)

Just flew down to DPS and back this month-- On the way down from HKG I was on a BC ticket and they didn't move me. I got a nice seat up top but other than that, no big deal. On the way home to DCA via HKG, I had a F class ticket all the way home, so at checkin they provided me a F seat ticket from DPS to HKG.

Nice gesture, had seat 1A and there was only 1 other person in the cabin with me. The real kicker was that the staff ended up using most of the other seats to rest after meal service. The food is the same, service the same, just a bigger seat for a 4 hour flight.

In my case it certainly does matter, as a downgrade from a 744 to a 773 (not 77A) represents the difference between a restful experience in J to sitting upright and having to endure a seat mate. And, at the margin (as both OW Emerald and on an F ticket) the infinitely reduced chance of having a truly luxurious rest in the F section. I'm very, very disappointed but my downgrade, but I won't lose sight of the fact I'm going to Bali, and there's nothing shabby about that!

Smirnoff Aug 14, 2011 7:45 am

We flew on CX784 on 6 Aug. Had seats assigned in rows 81-82-83, which still showed as our seat assignments the week before.

Went into OLCI 2 days before it, and it had changed to a 777. I was moved to 16E (Diamond MPC dumped in middle seat near the back), and the rest of the family "seat unassigned". Not happy.

Got the airport, and the guy at the airport said "no, it's a 747 Sir". Huh. :confused: Sure enough it had changed back to a 747. Of course we had lost the original seat assignments. The machine spat out 4A for me and the rest on the LD in BC. I did manage to get 2 more of us moved to row 4, so it worked out ok.

azmmza Aug 14, 2011 9:40 am

I would expect that a fist rate airline like CX would have fewer aircraft substitutions.

part of the problem is they are inconsistent.

if you look at BKK-HKG flights, some days have F (sold as F) on the 747 and some days are all 330.

some days are a mix of 777 747 and 330 .

with 5 or 6 flights a day with a diff aircraft type each day of the week, things will go wrong and last minute substitutions (downgrades)will happen.

Until CX starts using the same aircraft for specific flights, you can expect this to continue

toyotaboy95 Aug 14, 2011 8:46 pm


Originally Posted by azmmza (Post 16921684)
I would expect that a fist rate airline like CX would have fewer aircraft substitutions.

part of the problem is they are inconsistent.

if you look at BKK-HKG flights, some days have F (sold as F) on the 747 and some days are all 330.

some days are a mix of 777 747 and 330 .

with 5 or 6 flights a day with a diff aircraft type each day of the week, things will go wrong and last minute substitutions (downgrades)will happen.

Until CX starts using the same aircraft for specific flights, you can expect this to continue

Think TG :D - infamous for their last-minute subs, and their product ranges significantly.


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