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jjpb3 Mar 28, 2010 9:24 am


Originally Posted by christep (Post 13663944)
Does anyone here have a problem with that? They're better and they're cheaper. Which keeps us happy and should keep fares down a bit. I'm all for CX being "Asia's best airline" rather than "just one of China's airlines".

I've liked the Thai FAs on my flights, so more power to them.

The variation among the most junior crew on my flights tells me they could use a bit more rigorous screening to justify their premium.

JALPak Mar 28, 2010 11:43 am


Originally Posted by toyotaboy95 (Post 13663846)
I've recently discovered this. BKK-based crew get paid 100 Baht/hr, which is around $20 HKD per hour. This is a great deal of money saved vs. HKG new recruits earning 100 HKD/hr. Obviously, company management would want BKK crew to fly to other destinations to maximize savings.

The latest rumor is CX will deploy Singapore based crew on Hong Kong-Japan routes. That's another reason why some of the HK based crew still threaten to strike even after CX has agreed not the implement the new swapping system permanently. They want outport crews to only fly on flights to/from their country unless there's a language need.

sxc Mar 28, 2010 12:18 pm


Originally Posted by JALPak (Post 13664772)
The latest rumor is CX will deploy Singapore based crew on Hong Kong-Japan routes. That's another reason why some of the HK based crew still threaten to strike even after CX has agreed not the implement the new swapping system permanently. They want outport crews to only fly on flights to/from their country unless there's a language need.

Considering the English language skills of many of the young crew leave much to be desired, they may not want to argue the language point.

JALPak Mar 28, 2010 12:26 pm


Originally Posted by sxc (Post 13664939)
Considering the English language skills of many of the young crew leave much to be desired, they may not want to argue the language point.

I think they meant language other than English and Chinese. For example, if there's a large group of Thai speaking passengers on flight to LAX, they don't mind CX deploying Thailand based crew on that flight :rolleyes:

christep Mar 28, 2010 8:12 pm

sxc's point is valid - the Thai and Singaporean (and Indian, Filipino, Malaysian, and even Japanese, Korean, whatever) crews generally have far better English than most of the Mongkok shop girls.

I have no problem whatsoever with CX taking advantage of the fact that they can get better crew for less money in places other than Hong Kong.

toyotaboy95 Mar 29, 2010 3:26 am


Originally Posted by christep (Post 13663944)
Does anyone here have a problem with that? They're better and they're cheaper. Which keeps us happy and should keep fares down a bit. I'm all for CX being "Asia's best airline" rather than "just one of China's airlines".

Well, on the other hand, they say they are "deeply committed to Hong Kong"..:rolleyes:

JALPak Mar 29, 2010 3:41 am


Originally Posted by toyotaboy95 (Post 13668353)
Well, on the other hand, they say they are "deeply committed to Hong Kong"..:rolleyes:

An not sure if using BKK/SIN based crews on ex-HKG flights are considered as labor import. If that's the case, there will be limits on how many FAs CX can "imports" and that probably will be enough protection for the HKG based crews?

jjpb3 Mar 30, 2010 8:21 am


Originally Posted by toyotaboy95 (Post 13668353)
Well, on the other hand, they say they are "deeply committed to Hong Kong"..:rolleyes:

But deep commitment to HK doesn't mean putting up with substandard service quality. It's only within the past 2-3 years that I've noticed a deterioration in the junior crew's service finesse (always on my HKG-LHR flights, though).

It makes me wonder how CX's training programme seems to have left those recruits relatively rough.

JALPak Mar 30, 2010 10:19 pm

Things aren't going great. CX did not shows up for the meeting with the union yesterday. The union wants their new ex-co member who is not a CX employee to sit in the meeting (just to listen) but CX refused. They have reschedule the meeting for today and the union agrees to remove the non-cx employee ex-co from the attendee list

Cathay Boy Mar 31, 2010 5:40 am


Originally Posted by jjpb3 (Post 13676436)
But deep commitment to HK doesn't mean putting up with substandard service quality. It's only within the past 2-3 years that I've noticed a deterioration in the junior crew's service finesse (always on my HKG-LHR flights, though).

It makes me wonder how CX's training programme seems to have left those recruits relatively rough.

The junior crews seems to be hit and miss. On the same flight back I had a wonderful female junior crew, and a horrific male junior crew who doesn't even bother to hide his displeasure with facial expressions. He is especially restless with the mandarin speaking pax.

I too am wondering if these are just the exception or the norms of future CX FAs.

JALPak Apr 1, 2010 12:41 pm

The union's latest message to its members. I would recommend watching the Cantonese version if you speaks Cantonese...sounds like the union will take further actions soon

English version: http://www.youtube.com/user/happyval.../0/Eq9CxG7yUDw
Chinese version: http://www.youtube.com/user/happyval.../1/b9vgRVqQ5iE

percysmith Apr 2, 2010 2:10 am

Sxxt just read talks collapsed and the FA union's going to vote on a strike over Easter.

http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/realti...rt_id=13889609

I'm to catch a flight to KUL tomorrow and come back on Tue...I'm not too worried about tmw's flight but am deeply worried about being stuck in KUL.

Anyone have any idea whether a flight can take off without FAs?

toyotaboy95 Apr 2, 2010 3:59 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 13695824)
Anyone have any idea whether a flight can take off without FAs?

That's against safety regulations. Anyway, don't be worried, there are literally hundreds of options for the KUL route and if necessary SIN.

percysmith Apr 2, 2010 4:08 am

Thanks


News just in - FA Union to call meeting on Monday and a strike could follow on Tuesday 6. Oh dear...

http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/realti...rt_id=13889905

Cathay Boy Apr 2, 2010 4:32 am


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 13695999)
Thanks


News just in - FA Union to call meeting on Monday and a strike could follow on Tuesday 6. Oh dear...

http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/realti...rt_id=13889905

CRAP! I'm traveling with two important clients on the 7th, and they are looking forward to flying CX for the first time, CRAP!


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