Stockpile AM or AA?
#1
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 153
Stockpile AM or AA?
Hello,
I have a question: would it be better to stockpile Asia Miles or AA miles? My main usage is to fly business or first on US - east asia route (the hub in US can by anywhere).
The reason I'm asking is that I'm about to have a few really big spending in the next few months, which I can charge them using AAdvantage citi card, or Amex SPG which then gets me Asia miles. If I use citi cards, I get some miles back when I use them I think, but SPG offers 25% transfer bonus.
The downside of stockpiling asia miles is that it's usually only good on CX flights, whereas Aa can be redeemed for JAL flights.
Award space wise, I know whatever's available on CX is also available for AA, but is it true without exception? (say if there are 3 award seats left, does CX only sell 2 to OW partners or do they sell all 3?)
Thanks
I have a question: would it be better to stockpile Asia Miles or AA miles? My main usage is to fly business or first on US - east asia route (the hub in US can by anywhere).
The reason I'm asking is that I'm about to have a few really big spending in the next few months, which I can charge them using AAdvantage citi card, or Amex SPG which then gets me Asia miles. If I use citi cards, I get some miles back when I use them I think, but SPG offers 25% transfer bonus.
The downside of stockpiling asia miles is that it's usually only good on CX flights, whereas Aa can be redeemed for JAL flights.
Award space wise, I know whatever's available on CX is also available for AA, but is it true without exception? (say if there are 3 award seats left, does CX only sell 2 to OW partners or do they sell all 3?)
Thanks
#2
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Join Date: May 2006
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Hello,
I have a question: would it be better to stockpile Asia Miles or AA miles? My main usage is to fly business or first on US - east asia route (the hub in US can by anywhere).
The reason I'm asking is that I'm about to have a few really big spending in the next few months, which I can charge them using AAdvantage citi card, or Amex SPG which then gets me Asia miles. If I use citi cards, I get some miles back when I use them I think, but SPG offers 25% transfer bonus.
The downside of stockpiling asia miles is that it's usually only good on CX flights, whereas Aa can be redeemed for JAL flights.
Award space wise, I know whatever's available on CX is also available for AA, but is it true without exception? (say if there are 3 award seats left, does CX only sell 2 to OW partners or do they sell all 3?)
Thanks
I have a question: would it be better to stockpile Asia Miles or AA miles? My main usage is to fly business or first on US - east asia route (the hub in US can by anywhere).
The reason I'm asking is that I'm about to have a few really big spending in the next few months, which I can charge them using AAdvantage citi card, or Amex SPG which then gets me Asia miles. If I use citi cards, I get some miles back when I use them I think, but SPG offers 25% transfer bonus.
The downside of stockpiling asia miles is that it's usually only good on CX flights, whereas Aa can be redeemed for JAL flights.
Award space wise, I know whatever's available on CX is also available for AA, but is it true without exception? (say if there are 3 award seats left, does CX only sell 2 to OW partners or do they sell all 3?)
Thanks
#3
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: MPC,CA,MU,AF
Posts: 8,171
If you are talking about long haul J awards, it is rare that you can see more than two awards on the same flight in any inventory, regardless of the programme. Asia Miles does have a slight advantage as you can waitlist on CX awards using Asia Miles.
#4
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Up in the Air
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Posts: 524
I would charge the upcoming big purchases on the SPG Amex. The key reasons is the 25% transfer bonus when transferring in 20k lots and flexibility since you can transfer to both Asia Miles and American Airlines.
Right now the AA flight redemption levels are a better deal than Asia Miles (miles and fuel surcharge wise) but rumor has it there is a big AAdvantage devaluation coming down the pipeline once AA/USair finishes their merger. Thus, if the AA miles are really devalued in the near future, you can always transfer the SPG points to Asia Miles and use them there.
Right now the AA flight redemption levels are a better deal than Asia Miles (miles and fuel surcharge wise) but rumor has it there is a big AAdvantage devaluation coming down the pipeline once AA/USair finishes their merger. Thus, if the AA miles are really devalued in the near future, you can always transfer the SPG points to Asia Miles and use them there.
#5
formerly gemini573
Join Date: Jun 2003
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If you're doing most of your flying on CX, I would bank it towards Asia Miles. The fact that you can upgrade with miles and have priority with op up over other OW members is a big advantage over AA.
I had my flights credited before with AA in the past. Yes, the redemption rates and taxes are much lower than Asia Miles. As echoed from one of the posters above, I foresee a major devaluation.
I had my flights credited before with AA in the past. Yes, the redemption rates and taxes are much lower than Asia Miles. As echoed from one of the posters above, I foresee a major devaluation.
#7
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
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But with Chase Sapphire Preferred he can earn up to 2 mile/$ on certain categories?
#8
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 153
With SPG Amex OP is effectively earning 1.25 mile/$ on both AA and AM
But with Chase Sapphire Preferred he can earn up to 2 mile/$ on certain categories?
But with Chase Sapphire Preferred he can earn up to 2 mile/$ on certain categories?
Right now I'm leaning towards AM simply because its ability to waitlist and op up, but that means I won't be able to buy JL one way in J or F, unlike if I had done AA. Oh well =\
#9
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 755
Yeah I won't get the 2% bonus from restaurants and travel, so I guess SPG is my best bet, and transfer when necessary.
Right now I'm leaning towards AM simply because its ability to waitlist and op up, but that means I won't be able to buy JL one way in J or F, unlike if I had done AA. Oh well =\
Right now I'm leaning towards AM simply because its ability to waitlist and op up, but that means I won't be able to buy JL one way in J or F, unlike if I had done AA. Oh well =\
Btw, JL charges very expensive YQ... $300+ for oneway, so it is likely that you are better off with AA.
#10
Ambassador, Hong Kong and Macau
Join Date: May 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: Non-top tier Asia Miles member
Posts: 19,773
JL must have really screwed up their fuel hedging...
Last edited by percysmith; Mar 21, 2014 at 2:17 am
#11
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Join Date: Jul 2011
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https://www.asiamiles.com/am/en/redeem/charts
#12
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SPG points can also transfer for BA Avios which are a great value for shorter redemptions on CX, such as HKG-NRT, HKG-ICN, etc., due to the distance-based pricing. One-ways allowed and no close-in booking fees.