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dbyyz Jul 11, 2005 8:35 pm


Originally Posted by airbus320
Wasn't there a discussion a while ago that GTAA was considering organizing a pax forum to receive feedback on the airport?

Did I dream this...as wishful thinking? :)

In any case there is enough material here for them to ponder...;)


The GTAA doesn't give a rat's ... what the passengers think.

dbyyz Jul 11, 2005 8:42 pm

I agree with Stinger. YYZ may well be confusing for people like my parents and the signage is poor, but come on people, we are frequent flyers on this forum and everyone knows YYZ is going through a phased construction process, so we have to live with the inconvenience. It's the same with other airports. There is a lot to complain about at YYZ, but let's have some perspective.

PreferBulkhead Jul 11, 2005 8:57 pm

So which is it for you???


There is a lot to complain about at YYZ, but let's have some perspective.
or


The GTAA doesn't give a rat's ... what the passengers think.
Or are the two totally seperate in your thoughts? :rolleyes:

dbyyz Jul 12, 2005 6:44 am


Originally Posted by PreferBulkhead
So which is it for you???



or



Or are the two totally seperate in your thoughts? :rolleyes:


They are two seperate thoughts. YYZ T1 is a well designed airport. There are two types of problems: 1) those that are small and managable like signage, taxi lines, etc. and 2) the larger problems related to the phased constuction.

Although the first type of problems are manageable, I think the GTAA is out of touch and does not care about the customers. If they did these problems would be resolved. Try writing to them and see what kind of dismissive response you get. In any event, the original example raised was lack of information and signage. While this may be a problem for some travellers, it should not be a problem for frequent travellers.

AS for the major construction related problems, I agree that they are a pain in the butt. In fact, if I have to connect through YYZ from Europe to the US I try to arrange to go through YUL. However, these problems are not unusual in large airports and in airport expansions. The good thing is that we will see and end to it and when we do the airport's design will be praised. Meanwhile, we have to deal with it. But some of the comments on here that YYZ is the worst airport in the world, etc are really over the top. Like I said, some perspective is needed.

stinger Jul 12, 2005 6:51 am

Are we stupid enough to think that any airport authority cares about the pax? I would hope not. I have seen instances all over Canada and the world of problems that could easily be prevented in the passengers were put first.

This includes all airports accross the country. YYZ has it's problems as does any major international airport that handles over 25 million pax. No other Canadian airport can be compared IMO as they don't handle the anywhere near the same amount of traffic.

yyznomad Jul 12, 2005 7:02 am


Originally Posted by stinger
Are we stupid enough to think that any airport authority cares about the pax? I would hope not. I have seen instances all over Canada and the world of problems that could easily be prevented in the passengers were put first.

This includes all airports accross the country. YYZ has it's problems as does any major international airport that handles over 25 million pax. No other Canadian airport can be compared IMO as they don't handle the anywhere near the same amount of traffic.

Exactly.
I've asked before if there's such a thing as a "good" airport authority... they're all run by a bunch of twatwaffles (love that word).

stinger Jul 12, 2005 7:38 am


Originally Posted by yyznomad
Exactly.
I've asked before if there's such a thing as a "good" airport authority... they're all run by a bunch of twatwaffles (love that word).

And let's face it one of the easiest to get around is HKG and they had the ability to build an entirely separate airport prior to moving so to avoid the major construction hassles. I guess that's what you can do when you have all that land. ;)

Rejuvenated Jul 12, 2005 1:07 pm

Land is very scarce in HK. :) But kudos to them for finding one to build it on rather than tear down the old one and rebuilding it in the same location

AC*AP*FQTV Jan 3, 2010 6:44 pm

telling it like it is...
 
Pearson was headache for workers, too
One man tells his story from behind the counter
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/tran...or-workers-too

not sure if this was posted elsewhere?!?!?!?

:confused:

AC*AP*FQTV Jan 5, 2010 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by dbyyz (Post 4301836)
The GTAA doesn't give a rat's ... what the passengers think.

Is this the forum you were referring to?

Consultative Committee


The GTAA created the Consultative Committee (CC) as a forum for community involvement which meets three to four times a year. The CC deals primarily with economic development and planning matters, and provides a communication/consultation forum for community constituents to meet with GTAA management and staff, consistent with the requirements of the Toronto Pearson Ground Lease (Article 9.04):

"The GTAA shall, within six months of the transfer date, establish a community consultative committee to provide for effective dialogue and dissemination of information on matters relating to the Airport, including airport planning and plans, operational aspects of the Airport, and municipal concerns.

The Consultative Committee shall meet not less than twice each year, and shall be comprised of members who are generally representative of the community, including persons representing the interests of consumers, the travelling public and organized labour, aviation industry representatives and appropriate provincial and municipal government representatives."

View the Terms of Reference.

Upcoming Consultative Committee Meetings:

Wednesday February 17, 2010
Wednesday June 2, 2010
Wednesday September 1, 2010
Wednesday December 1, 2010
All meetings begin at 4 p.m. For further information, contact a GTAA Consultative Committee representative at (416) 776-3941

why fly Aug 21, 2010 2:31 pm


Originally Posted by AC*AP*FQTV (Post 13120977)
Is this the forum you were referring to?

Consultative Committee

has anyone every gone to these meeting from FT?

zkzkz Aug 21, 2010 7:47 pm


Originally Posted by BOH (Post 4299260)
YYZ is certainly not the worst, much better than LHR, IAD and JFK. Now if only AC and the Canada Immigration service could better co-ordinate arriving connecting pax (as per YUL) my major gripe will be solved.

Aside from the loooong hikes you have to do and the "shopping experience" that BAA inflicts on passengers, connecting at LHR is actually surprisingly efficient and well organized.

As far as signage there's basically nowhere you can stand in the airport and not be able to see a purple "Flight Connections" sign directing you to where to go to make your connection.

I've connected quite a few times in YYZ and I always spend 20 minutes wandering around lost trying to find where to go. The last time I asked someone for help he turned out to be equally lost. And this was entirely within T1, no bussing involved.

payam81 Aug 22, 2010 3:40 pm


Originally Posted by why fly (Post 14522296)
has anyone every gone to these meeting from FT?

It's a good DO idea! :D


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