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analogueman Jul 14, 2022 11:35 am

Just out of random curiosity, on the press release it says the following:


Air travellers who qualify as fully vaccinated and who are selected for mandatory random testing, as well as air travellers who do not qualify as fully vaccinated, will receive an email notification within 15 minutes of completing their customs declaration.
Does that mean if you complete the Advance CBSA Declaration on the ArriveCAN app in the 72 hours before you travel, you'd find out before you even start travelling whether or not you'd been selected, or are you possibly selected at customs in the airport?

TheCanuckian Jul 14, 2022 2:37 pm


The testing will be completed either at an in-person appointment at select testing locations or via a virtual appointment for a swab test.

Dan1113 Jul 15, 2022 6:20 am

We arrive on the 20th. FFS
is it PCR? I assume yes? We were all positive around 15-20 June, wonder what the chances are of the PCR being positive a month on?

Edit: finally tested negative around 23/25 June, so not even that long ago. :/

People here seem to be recommending to just if ore and not test when told to test, but that seems like a very very risky strategy especially as a tourist/non Canadian...

flyertalker00159 Jul 15, 2022 8:31 am


Originally Posted by Dan1113 (Post 34428087)
We arrive on the 20th. FFS
is it PCR? I assume yes? We were all positive around 15-20 June, wonder what the chances are of the PCR being positive a month on?

Edit: finally tested negative around 23/25 June, so not even that long ago. :/

People here seem to be recommending to just if ore and not test when told to test, but that seems like a very very risky strategy especially as a tourist/non Canadian...

Do you have proof of a positive PCR result? That should exempt you from the random test if selected.

Dan1113 Jul 15, 2022 8:35 am


Originally Posted by MaxFlying (Post 34428453)
Do you have proof of a positive PCR result? That should exempt you from the random test if selected.

No, the UK stopped providing PCRs back in April or May, so we have nothing. My PCR positive from January is still valid for exemption, but that's only me, not the other two of us.

3 weeks after going negative on antigen seems very high risk for the other two :(

wjw Jul 15, 2022 7:26 pm

If it was really about surveillance of new variants it should be anonymous testing. It makes absolutely no sense to keep enforcing these weird federal 10 day quarantines long after everyone has stopped caring about COVID, including our provincial governments.

Dan1113 Jul 16, 2022 1:22 am


Originally Posted by analogueman (Post 34425742)
Just out of random curiosity, on the press release it says the following:



Does that mean if you complete the Advance CBSA Declaration on the ArriveCAN app in the 72 hours before you travel, you'd find out before you even start travelling whether or not you'd been selected, or are you possibly selected at customs in the airport?

I was hoping for this but see now it is only Toronto and Vancouver. :(

YYZ1313 Jul 16, 2022 5:43 am


Originally Posted by wjw (Post 34430024)
If it was really about surveillance of new variants it should be anonymous testing. It makes absolutely no sense to keep enforcing these weird federal 10 day quarantines long after everyone has stopped caring about COVID, including our provincial governments.

Maybe just maybe the government is still using COVID for political reasons because good Canadians care about protecting each other and all that stuff.

EtoileFilante Jul 16, 2022 8:30 am

According to one article I read, the test are only at YYZ, YVR, YUL, and YYC - does that mean you could get around the possibility of being selected by flying into another airport (i.e. YQB)?

sydneyracquelle Jul 16, 2022 10:32 am


Originally Posted by EtoileFilante (Post 34431091)
According to one article I read, the test are only at YYZ, YVR, YUL, and YYC - does that mean you could get around the possibility of being selected by flying into another airport (i.e. YQB)?


I am now using YTZ exclusively instead of YYZ.

TheCanuckian Jul 16, 2022 1:49 pm

CBC explains how it will work. It seems like the government has managed to find a way to make a bad thing even worse. I guess there’s a chance that returning travelers will have to go to a local pharmacy to get tested—rather an inconvenience. Also, 15 minutes after going through customs I’m often already in a cab down the 401, so even if there is an option to grab a kit at the airport, I may miss it.

Snippets:


The government maintains that random testing for air travellers is needed to detect new COVID-19 variants




Government rules state that if you test positive on arrival, you must isolate for 10 days.

Travellers selected for random testing should receive an email notification within 15 minutes of passing through customs, according to a government news release.

"The email will contain information to help them arrange for their test with a testing provider in their region," the release says.




Passengers with connecting flights will not be forced to leave the airports in Toronto, Calgary, Montreal or Vancouver to go to a testing site in those cities.

Instead, the government says those passengers can go to participating testing sites at their final destinations or book virtual self-swab appointments.




Offsite testing for travellers will be conducted by private lab companies, such as Dynacare, LifeLabs and Switch Health.

The labs available vary by province. Travellers can check the government's website to learn where to go in their region.

An offsite testing provider may also send travellers to a pharmacy for a test.

A notification email will also indicate where a traveller can be tested in their region, the government says.

Dan1113 Jul 16, 2022 2:41 pm

I think I read you can request a home test to be sent to your address? That's what I was hoping.

ess9191 Jul 16, 2022 9:16 pm

Does this apply to all International arrivals or just Canadian citizens returning back? I'm supposed to fly up to Vancouver for a night from California then fly on to South America the next day. Not sure how I would do this test if selected since I won't have a car to get to these testing locations.

TheCanuckian Jul 17, 2022 1:22 am


Originally Posted by ess9191 (Post 34432573)
Does this apply to all International arrivals or just Canadian citizens returning back? I'm supposed to fly up to Vancouver for a night from California then fly on to South America the next day. Not sure how I would do this test if selected since I won't have a car to get to these testing locations.

You would be fine since you are leaving the country.

analogueman Jul 17, 2022 1:58 am

Question: what happens if you don’t travel with a device that can access emails and you get selected?


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