U.S.-bound connecting passengers have to clear security twice at Toronto YYZ?
May 25, 2022, 10:48 am
#1
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U.S.-bound connecting passengers have to clear security twice at Toronto YYZ?
We just returned from a trip to Florida. Flew with WestJet with a connecting flight at Toronto YYZ. We went thru Security at our departure airport, but in Toronto we had to come out & go through Security AGAIN before we boarded our connecting flight to TPA. Can anyone explain why US-connecting passengers have to come out & endure lining up through Security again, instead of simply going to our connecting gate, like passengers connecting yo other CANADIAN cities..?
May 25, 2022, 6:46 pm
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Join Date: Jul 2003
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We just returned from a trip to Florida. Flew with WestJet with a connecting flight at Toronto YYZ. We went thru Security at our departure airport, but in Toronto we had to come out & go through Security AGAIN before we boarded our connecting flight to TPA. Can anyone explain why US-connecting passengers have to come out & endure lining up through Security again, instead of simply going to our connecting gate, like passengers connecting yo other CANADIAN cities..?
May 25, 2022, 9:34 pm
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Every time I connect in YYZ T1 I have to redo security to travel to the US.
May 25, 2022, 9:52 pm
#4
Join Date: May 2022
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i frequently connect yvr -> yyz -> us destinations and i have always been required to clear security twice: once at yvr and once at yyz
May 30, 2022, 4:48 pm
#5
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Intesting that with the reverse situation one does not need double security:
I came to YOW from HNL via YVR and YYZ yesterday.
I went through TSA precheck security in HNL; no second security check required in Vancouver.
So If Canada does not require 2nd security for onward connecting passengers at Canadian airports coming from USA - why does US require second security for connecting passengers at US preclearance at Canadian airports?
I came to YOW from HNL via YVR and YYZ yesterday.
I went through TSA precheck security in HNL; no second security check required in Vancouver.
So If Canada does not require 2nd security for onward connecting passengers at Canadian airports coming from USA - why does US require second security for connecting passengers at US preclearance at Canadian airports?
May 30, 2022, 8:31 pm
#6
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The US requires certain security screening proceedures / restrictions for pre-cleared flights from Canada that are different from those required for domestic Canadian air travel. Therefore, passengers boarding flights to the US must go through special US-standard security prior to pre-clearance at Canadian airports, even if they have already cleared standard Canadian screening prior to their inbound domestic flight.
(It is my understanding that when BA offered their LCY-SNN-JFK service, pax had to re-clear special US security during the SNN fuel stop...)
I would be interested to know if this also applies to flights that are not pre-cleared, e.g. a Porter flight YOW-YTZ-EWR.... ?
(It is my understanding that when BA offered their LCY-SNN-JFK service, pax had to re-clear special US security during the SNN fuel stop...)
I would be interested to know if this also applies to flights that are not pre-cleared, e.g. a Porter flight YOW-YTZ-EWR.... ?
May 31, 2022, 10:48 am
#7
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto
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I think I recall the double security situation for connecting US bound happens because US CBP officers require any passengers they interact with to have gone through US standard of security which may not be the same as Canadian security. This was also the reason that US preclearance facilties were all reconfigured a few years ago so that you check bags and go through security BEFORE seeing a CBP officer. It used to be that you brought your luggage with you through US pre-clearance, then dropped them at a belt and go through secuirty after seeing an officer.
May 31, 2022, 10:54 am
#8
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Atlanta
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I think I recall the double security situation for connecting US bound happens because US CBP officers require any passengers they interact with to have gone through US standard of security which may not be the same as Canadian security. This was also the reason that US preclearance facilties were all reconfigured a few years ago so that you check bags and go through security BEFORE seeing a CBP officer. It used to be that you brought your luggage with you through US pre-clearance, then dropped them at a belt and go through secuirty after seeing an officer.