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Short hair Francis May 8, 2022 11:13 pm


Originally Posted by yyznomad (Post 34229960)
What time exactly does CATSA stop letting green stickers go through priority security? I've always estimated, in my experience, it's around the time between the last transcon dayliners and the redeyes... so around 4:30/5:00pm PT.

6-7pm? I had no problem back around March around those hours for AC 126.

nomadic.relief May 9, 2022 9:06 am


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 34226670)
Elsewhere, it was posted that Nexus/Priority only where being handled at the C security portal (only one lane?!) and the rest had to go through the A/B portal.

Dunno if there is really only one Priority lane open, but I'm not sure that this configuration really solves anything other than having more room to queue up for everyone else.

I guess I will see for myself next week. And I used to like being based out of YVR.

So it's not 1 lane, all open C lanes. (This morning there were 4.) 20 minutes from curb to lounge at 7:15am on a Monday, not inhumane. (The lounge "experience" was another story.)

Of note, the C gates were only NEXUS/priority and TERRIBLY marked, not even 100% certain on priority, only saw the agent checking BPs and asking for NEXUS cards (priority would have been marked on bp so I suppose wouldn't need to be verbalized?). People had queued up, got to the front, then turfed to A/B gates ... no temper tantrums, but a bit of huffing, which is fair.

**Did notice as I walked by A/B that the priority lane was blocked off, but it was the same at C Gates, where the sign simply stated "Area Closed" at the normal NEXUS entrance and everyone queued up at the normal (left) C entrance.

Bohemian1 May 9, 2022 12:13 pm

Thanks for the update nomadic.relief !

Maybe life won't suck so bad after all on Thursday morning when I'll be there. Too bad that YVR and/or CATSA hasn't figured out how to use signs.

nomadic.relief May 9, 2022 1:00 pm


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 34235141)
Too bad that YVR and/or CATSA hasn't figured out how to use signs.

Or even uitilize the friendly Green Vests to walk the line until they go to the expense of printing things.

yyznomad May 9, 2022 2:56 pm


Originally Posted by Short hair Francis (Post 34233543)
6-7pm? I had no problem back around March around those hours for AC 126.

Just to be clear, do you also have NEXUS?

I just want a distinction with those having a green sticker and no NEXUS, since NEXUS will get you through during all operating hours, whereas having the green sticker without NEXUS won't.

Short hair Francis May 9, 2022 3:36 pm


Originally Posted by yyznomad (Post 34235606)
Just to be clear, do you also have NEXUS?

I just want a distinction with those having a green sticker and no NEXUS, since NEXUS will get you through during all operating hours, whereas having the green sticker without NEXUS won't.

No NEXUS

xserveft May 10, 2022 2:41 am

Have the delays sorted themselves out a bit? Have a domestic flight at noon on May 13th :confused:

Bohemian1 May 10, 2022 10:40 am

Given that staffing will not have changed by then, I would assume that you expect the same issues, depending on time of day. But it appears that you will have more luck if you have a Nexus card. Otherwise, get there early.

Not that we really know how accurate it is, but you can always check the CATSA site on the day. I'll be doing that when I wake up on the 12th, since I'm flying that morning.

nomadic.relief May 10, 2022 9:26 pm


Originally Posted by tracon (Post 34228899)
Friday evening YVR.
19:45 & 20:45 C pier check points closed.
Very short waits at the B pier.


Originally Posted by yyznomad (Post 34235606)
Just to be clear, do you also have NEXUS?

I just want a distinction with those having a green sticker and no NEXUS, since NEXUS will get you through during all operating hours, whereas having the green sticker without NEXUS won't.

Asked today as I wandered by ... C gate security (Nexus/priority) closes at 18:00 for foreseeable future. No clarity on when "future" is expected to terminate.

smes May 10, 2022 9:59 pm

How early can you arrive for AC flights? I don't mind arriving 4.5 hours early if I get there at a time when the line is light. Can get lunch and use the lounge.

Short hair Francis May 10, 2022 10:07 pm


Originally Posted by nomadic.relief (Post 34239548)
Asked today as I wandered by ... C gate security (Nexus/priority) closes at 18:00 for foreseeable future. No clarity on when "future" is expected to terminate.

Mama SHF went through Domestic security today around 15:15.
A/B was operating as Regular only - 20 Minutes Wait
C as Priority/Nexus - Zero wait, agents were smacking flies

nomadic.relief May 10, 2022 10:08 pm


Originally Posted by smes (Post 34239601)
How early can you arrive for AC flights? I don't mind arriving 4.5 hours early if I get there at a time when the line is light. Can get lunch and use the lounge.

Depends if you have bags to check. But if you have lounge access, you should have priority lane access.

Short hair Francis May 10, 2022 11:04 pm


Originally Posted by smes (Post 34239601)
How early can you arrive for AC flights? I don't mind arriving 4.5 hours early if I get there at a time when the line is light. Can get lunch and use the lounge.

If you are taking one of the lunch-block (11:00-15:00) widebodies to YYZ, theres usually a short reprieve in the lines after 304 has left.
I can't guarantee the reprieve on weekends!

Just double check what are the widebodies schedule for YYZ/YUL that day. and work around that crowd.

Sopwith May 13, 2022 1:37 pm

I went through the YVR Pier C security at 06:00 am on Tuesday for an 08:00 flight, expecting a long queue for the morning rush. It was dead. Never seen it less busy. I noticed a group of about 6 or 7 CATSA folks huddled with a supervisor, looked like they may have been trainees.

EdmFlyBoi May 26, 2022 7:49 am


Originally Posted by Sopwith (Post 34247472)
I went through the YVR Pier C security at 06:00 am on Tuesday for an 08:00 flight, expecting a long queue for the morning rush. It was dead. Never seen it less busy. I noticed a group of about 6 or 7 CATSA folks huddled with a supervisor, looked like they may have been trainees.

My most recent time through they were training. Having experienced security screening in many other countries, I continue to be puzzled by the level of seeming incompetence in Canada. The CATSA agents spend a lot of time seemingly standing around and priority and NEXUS lines have silly rules that shouldn’t apply especially if you are NEXUS. If you look at how TSA Precheck works in the US it is way more efficient. NEXUS passengers are supposed to be allowed to keep certain things on (according to signs) and these rules are rarely followed. There is an article in the Globe about the major airlines asking for these issues to be sorted. A lot of it is likely incompetent leadership with no idea what happens day to day (such as the Transport Minister).

SEA-Flyer May 26, 2022 7:04 pm

Flying SEA-YVR-YYZ-LIS on Air Canada in J (except for SEA-YVR, which is single-class economy-only). What will be our connection experience in YVR? Just immigration? Both immigration and Security? We only have 1:17 for the connection, so any tips would be appreciated. We don’t have Nexus or any FF status, but are traveling in paid business class.

eigenvector May 28, 2022 11:28 am

YVR C priority security today: pax having a meltdown about how many people are in front of her. Arguing with CATSA that there must be a "real priority" line and "all these people can't be priority". The wait time was under 10 minutes.

YYCCL3 Jun 1, 2022 9:21 am

Went through C pier security this morning at 0745, took 7 minutes from bag drop to sitting in the lounge even including a random manual search by CATSA.

nomadic.relief Jun 6, 2022 4:34 am

Any idea what non-priority looks like early morning? I certainly don't, but I have to drop someone off for an 8am flight Wednesday, and I don't want to base my timing on C gate expirences (mine or others).

CanadianMike Jun 30, 2022 5:55 pm

Any recent experiences? Have things improved?

Flying internationally Monday evening. And then domestic a week after that.

Bohemian1 Jul 5, 2022 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by CanadianMike (Post 34385417)
Any recent experiences? Have things improved?

Flying internationally Monday evening. And then domestic a week after that.

Domestic was fast (way less than 10 minutes) for us on June 30 around 09:00, but we both have Nexus and didn't get caught up behind families or strollers.

Vacationtraveler Aug 1, 2022 12:47 pm

Does anyone have any recent YVR US departure experience for a morning flight (8:45 am). We're trying to decide how early to get to the airport. We're all travelling in J, with nexus and no checked luggage. Thanks!

xserveft Aug 1, 2022 1:44 pm

3 hours. Security lines aren't as much of an issue anymore and international/US wasn't as affected as domestic. But with US customs prior to departure you never know when you're going to win that lottery. Happened to me a couple years ago. Had to wait almost an hour in secondary but fortunately had arrived early enough.

Vacationtraveler Aug 4, 2022 7:46 am


Originally Posted by Vacationtraveler (Post 34477375)
Does anyone have any recent YVR US departure experience for a morning flight (8:45 am). We're trying to decide how early to get to the airport. We're all travelling in J, with nexus and no checked luggage. Thanks!


My experience. The regular line stretched back out and ran behind the AC check in desks. No line up for Nexus. Security wasn’t too bad. Lots of lanes open. Normal wait times, nothing excessive IMO

nomadic.relief Aug 18, 2022 1:50 pm

Proper NEXUS is back at YVR domestic! Separate entrance again. Line 1 wayyy to the left at C gates. Belts/shoes/light jackets stay on. Liquids remain in bags.

Unfortunately when I asked when it started (Monday) she did say it was unclear how long it would be open. Training? She didn't clarify.

** A/B gates looked painful. Lined up all the way back to C, whereas there were maybe 5 people for Priority/NEXUS

Bohemian1 Aug 22, 2022 12:28 pm


Originally Posted by nomadic.relief (Post 34526251)
Proper NEXUS is back at YVR domestic! Separate entrance again. Line 1 wayyy to the left at C gates. Belts/shoes/light jackets stay on. Liquids remain in bags.

Unfortunately when I asked when it started (Monday) she did say it was unclear how long it would be open. Training? She didn't clarify.

** A/B gates looked painful. Lined up all the way back to C, whereas there were maybe 5 people for Priority/NEXUS

Same for me on Friday around Noon. Deadsville in the Nexus line. Although they were clearly training, since there was a lot of X-ray monitor discussion going on for every bag.

nomadic.relief Aug 22, 2022 12:58 pm


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 34535936)
Same for me on Friday around Noon. Deadsville in the Nexus line. Although they were clearly training, since there was a lot of X-ray monitor discussion going on for every bag.

I didn't notice any training specific to our lane, but I did notice about 30-40 bags piled up on the belt thr next lane over that I assumed was for training (none going on at the time) ... maybe that's where the "missing" smaller checked bags end up. :D

Bohemian1 Aug 22, 2022 3:17 pm


Originally Posted by nomadic.relief (Post 34536035)
I didn't notice any training specific to our lane, but I did notice about 30-40 bags piled up on the belt thr next lane over that I assumed was for training (none going on at the time) ... maybe that's where the "missing" smaller checked bags end up. :D

Saw that too and was wondering about that.

gnomey Aug 28, 2022 7:21 pm

Does anyone know if there is a NEXUS line (no need to remove laptop + shoes) in the transit zone ?

flying

USA-YVR-YYC
and
YYC-YVR-USA

thank you

Bohemian1 Aug 28, 2022 7:40 pm

So, I saw the various photos on the CBC, and in the Daily Hive, and it appears that security screening at YVR is possibly back to gong show mode, but for an entirely artificial reason.

Does anyone have recent first hand experience? Is it Priority DOM, General DOM, TB, INT, or all three?

YVR4Ever Aug 29, 2022 9:12 am


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 34553499)
So, I saw the various photos on the CBC, and in the Daily Hive, and it appears that security screening at YVR is possibly back to gong show mode, but for an entirely artificial reason.

Does anyone have recent first hand experience? Is it Priority DOM, General DOM, TB, INT, or all three?

Seems like its everything. Just came through Priority Dom. The concierge was nice enough to escort me through the masses to find it. It feeds into the regular line inside the doors. I was through in about 20 min. Nexus was moving very slowly and looked like at least 30 min, but maybe even 45. General Dom was a very long line - can't tell how long it was taking.

Reports from yesterday were that TB was the worst.

gnomey Aug 29, 2022 9:48 am


Originally Posted by YVR4Ever (Post 34554819)
Seems like its everything. Just came through Priority Dom. The concierge was nice enough to escort me through the masses to find it. It feeds into the regular line inside the doors. I was through in about 20 min. Nexus was moving very slowly and looked like at least 30 min, but maybe even 45. General Dom was a very long line - can't tell how long it was taking.

Reports from yesterday were that TB was the worst.


for transborder into US, do they split the passengers by nexus vs non nexus line?

Bohemian1 Aug 29, 2022 12:05 pm


Originally Posted by YVR4Ever (Post 34554819)
Seems like its everything. Just came through Priority Dom. The concierge was nice enough to escort me through the masses to find it. It feeds into the regular line inside the doors. I was through in about 20 min. Nexus was moving very slowly and looked like at least 30 min, but maybe even 45. General Dom was a very long line - can't tell how long it was taking.

Reports from yesterday were that TB was the worst.

Thanks. I'm flying AC DOM next Sunday, so who knows how bad the priority line will still be by then. Long weekends can be tricky.

And I'm not surprised about TB being worse. That security process is almost always slower when it's busy.

YVR4Ever Aug 29, 2022 4:23 pm


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 34555326)
Thanks. I'm flying AC DOM next Sunday, so who knows how bad the priority line will still be by then. Long weekends can be tricky.

And I'm not surprised about TB being worse. That security process is almost always slower when it's busy.

Definitely check in with the concierge. They were super helpful and prevented me from getting mired in the Nexus line.

YVR4Ever Aug 29, 2022 4:24 pm


Originally Posted by gnomey (Post 34554925)
for transborder into US, do they split the passengers by nexus vs non nexus line?

They did the last time I went through there, but that was a couple of months ago. At that time, took about 20 min. to get through the whole thing using Nexus.

gnomey Aug 29, 2022 8:37 pm


Originally Posted by YVR4Ever (Post 34556079)
They did the last time I went through there, but that was a couple of months ago. At that time, took about 20 min. to get through the whole thing using Nexus.

thank you

this is one issue. another thing that scares me is the on-time record of AC planes - more than half seems to be 1-2h late in taking off

YVR4Ever Aug 29, 2022 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by gnomey (Post 34556589)
thank you

this is one issue. another thing that scares me is the on-time record of AC planes - more than half seems to be 1-2h late in taking off

That is very dependent on origin and destination. My flight today from YVR-YOW was around 20 min. late due to late passengers stuck in security. Allegedly, things are slowly starting to get better.

eigenvector Aug 30, 2022 11:48 pm


Originally Posted by Bohemian1 (Post 34553499)
So, I saw the various photos on the CBC, and in the Daily Hive, and it appears that security screening at YVR is possibly back to gong show mode, but for an entirely artificial reason.

Does anyone have recent first hand experience? Is it Priority DOM, General DOM, TB, INT, or all three?

I flew out of Domestic, Priority last week around 12 pm (departing on AC 8506) and myself and my travel companion were literally the only people in the security screening area. That's a first for me.

There were a lot of very bored looking CATSA people.

YVR Cockroach Aug 31, 2022 9:59 am

News is that an $8/hr bonus for the summer has expired starting Sunday so workers aren't coming in.

Expect more chaos as the contractor (Allied Universal) has proverbially drawn a line in the sand. Add to that the unions have been w/o a contract for nearly 1 1/2 years.

https://vancouversun.com/news/yvr-se...ace-discipline

Bohemian1 Aug 31, 2022 12:04 pm

Well, that should make my 08:00 flight on Sunday that more interesting....


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