Canada officials say vaxx req for visitors, random testing to end by 30 Sept.2022
#736
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I got a call yesterday from the assistant to the Liberal MP for my riding where my house is in Greater Vancouver. He said he was checking in with constituents to see how they were doing and if there was anything he wanted me to bring to the MP’s attention. We spoke for about half an hour, mostly about the hotel quarantine issue and from what he said, it seems fairly certain that they do plan to drop the mandatory hotel portion for vaxxed travellers for the next OIC. I hope he is correct.
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Alberta is certainly against the quarantine situation: https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...vid-19-testing
Only time will tell what will actually happen... but I'm hearing from all sides that hotel quarantine will be dropped for fully vaxxed ASAP.
Only time will tell what will actually happen... but I'm hearing from all sides that hotel quarantine will be dropped for fully vaxxed ASAP.
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Alberta is certainly against the quarantine situation: https://calgaryherald.com/news/local...vid-19-testing
Only time will tell what will actually happen... but I'm hearing from all sides that hotel quarantine will be dropped for fully vaxxed ASAP.
Only time will tell what will actually happen... but I'm hearing from all sides that hotel quarantine will be dropped for fully vaxxed ASAP.
Quebec and Ontario governments on the other side don"t want any relaxing (Ontario even asks for land borders hotel quarantine)
And the federal government is calculating which option is going to maximize their political return.
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Folks, we are again broadening the discussion well beyond the thread topic of the existing arrival airport hotel quarantine program so let's please carry on the wider border and political debate elsewhere.
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#740
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That's why they will ease restrictions for Canadian citizens and eligible visitors first and work their way toward an opening of the border to foreigners subsequently. They backed themselves into a corner with their narrative and they need to change it slowly so people don't freak out. That's why the PM and ministers keep dropping tidbits like this.
Changing Canadians perception of international travellers is goin to take some time. Of course theres been other government Covid flip flops....
Just my view of things!!!
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Also, YYC isn't handing out tickets because AB hasn't adopted the Contraventions Act, and I got the note below (which I refused to sign):
I complied with the arrival testing procedure and am currently in home quarantine.
Same here, I didn't book the quarantine hotel out of principle and will fight if I get a ticket.
#742
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Just saw an article on Radio Canada (French CBC, in French) saying that they are seriously considering lifting the quarantine (not only the hotel quarantine, the 14 days as well) for fully vaccinated travelers.
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...u-legault-ford
This is encouraging, basically the federal government want to go this way but want to avoid any federal - provincial battle. AB and BC strongly want to go this way, and it looks like QC, finally, realized that the expert recommendations make sense, now that the vaccination campaign is going really fast. ON, we don't know...
There will still be some testing requirement, before and after travel.
https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle...u-legault-ford
This is encouraging, basically the federal government want to go this way but want to avoid any federal - provincial battle. AB and BC strongly want to go this way, and it looks like QC, finally, realized that the expert recommendations make sense, now that the vaccination campaign is going really fast. ON, we don't know...
There will still be some testing requirement, before and after travel.
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My experience was very similar except I travelled from Denver to Calgary and nobody at DEN cared about the lack of hotel reservation. They checked the PCR test and the ArriveCAN receipt at the gate.
Also, YYC isn't handing out tickets because AB hasn't adopted the Contraventions Act, and I got the note below (which I refused to sign):
I complied with the arrival testing procedure and am currently in home quarantine.
Same here, I didn't book the quarantine hotel out of principle and will fight if I get a ticket.
Also, YYC isn't handing out tickets because AB hasn't adopted the Contraventions Act, and I got the note below (which I refused to sign):
I complied with the arrival testing procedure and am currently in home quarantine.
Same here, I didn't book the quarantine hotel out of principle and will fight if I get a ticket.
#744
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Left Canada before COVID started
I left Canada long before the COVID pandemic started.
I paid one night for a quarantine hotel and it was approx. $350.
Is it really fair to punish people who left Canada before the pandemic began?
Can anyone think of a way that I may be able to get my $350 back?
In other words: You left Canada, had no way of magically knowing there would be a pandemic, but you are not allowed back into your own country unless you have the money to pay for a 3 day hotel quarantine that could cost you over $ 1 000. Either pay up or wait overseas indefinitely until we eventually get rid of the mandatory stay.
IMHO: Those who can prove that they left Canada before the pandemic began ought to be given an exemption (we were not).
I paid one night for a quarantine hotel and it was approx. $350.
Is it really fair to punish people who left Canada before the pandemic began?
Can anyone think of a way that I may be able to get my $350 back?
In other words: You left Canada, had no way of magically knowing there would be a pandemic, but you are not allowed back into your own country unless you have the money to pay for a 3 day hotel quarantine that could cost you over $ 1 000. Either pay up or wait overseas indefinitely until we eventually get rid of the mandatory stay.
IMHO: Those who can prove that they left Canada before the pandemic began ought to be given an exemption (we were not).
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I left Canada long before the COVID pandemic started.
I paid one night for a quarantine hotel and it was approx. $350.
Is it really fair to punish people who left Canada before the pandemic began?
Can anyone think of a way that I may be able to get my $350 back?
In other words: You left Canada, had no way of magically knowing there would be a pandemic, but you are not allowed back into your own country unless you have the money to pay for a 3 day hotel quarantine that could cost you over $ 1 000. Either pay up or wait overseas indefinitely until we eventually get rid of the mandatory stay.
IMHO: Those who can prove that they left Canada before the pandemic began ought to be given an exemption (we were not).
I paid one night for a quarantine hotel and it was approx. $350.
Is it really fair to punish people who left Canada before the pandemic began?
Can anyone think of a way that I may be able to get my $350 back?
In other words: You left Canada, had no way of magically knowing there would be a pandemic, but you are not allowed back into your own country unless you have the money to pay for a 3 day hotel quarantine that could cost you over $ 1 000. Either pay up or wait overseas indefinitely until we eventually get rid of the mandatory stay.
IMHO: Those who can prove that they left Canada before the pandemic began ought to be given an exemption (we were not).
#746
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However I also had to pay for expensive testing.
The logic for the hotel stay seems to be to discourage international travel.
It would not have deterred anything for me as I needed to eventually come home anyway.
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I think it would help some if you tell us which hotel it was, and how you were able to only pay for one night. Most properties still seem to charge the full three nights at those extortionate rates. And yes, that policy was definitely meant to be punitive in order to discourage international travel. People like you who were caught in that are just collateral damage.
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To be fair, you had 11 months to come back before the hotel jails were put in place... even when they made the announcement, it took two weeks to implement. So this wasnt suddenly implemented, you chose to stay outside.
#749
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Staying abroad for me was not much of a choice, for 2 reasons:
1) No jobs in Canada
2) Not eligible for any government assistance in Canada.
Someone with basically no hard skills (just soft skills like customer service) would not be able to find work.
Before going abroad I only worked customer service. Abroad I taught English (but am not a certified teacher).
Only thing I could have tried is teaching English online (however that got very saturated during COVID).
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That's basically the same that everyone says, please understand:
Staying abroad for me was not much of a choice, for 2 reasons:
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Before going abroad I only worked customer service. Abroad I taught English (but am not a certified teacher).
Only thing I could have tried is teaching English online (however that got very saturated during COVID).
Staying abroad for me was not much of a choice, for 2 reasons:
.....
Before going abroad I only worked customer service. Abroad I taught English (but am not a certified teacher).
Only thing I could have tried is teaching English online (however that got very saturated during COVID).
Not judging, just genuinely curious.