mapleloaf

That is unfortunate, and I will still continue to seek clarification. It feels very wrong that an American could come to Canada from the US for medical treatment, and avoid quarantine completely, but a Canadian cannot return to Canada without being detained after receiving medical treatment not available here.

sydneyracquelle

The American would only be in Canada for probably 24-48 hours max and then leave Canada and interact with very few people.

mapleloaf

Which is exactly the same as us, but in reverse. Travelling for <48 hrs to the US.

sydneyracquelle

But you will be in Canada for much longer than 24-48 hours and you risk spreading covid in Canada more than the American who doesn’t know anyone and will go directly to his Dr then exit Canada.

mapleloaf

I would be in quarantine with my son for the full 14 days, filing daily check-ins like every other time we have to travel together during the pandemic. Only this time, having the benefit of at least 3 PCR tests within 3 days (before leaving in each direction, plus landing again in Canada), plus probably an additional followup a few days after we're in quarantine at home. Not looking for an exemption from any quarantine.

Just feel like the possible $4000 fine and anything resembling the conditions that have been reported in the hotels so far is a punishment for someone who can't avoid travelling for medical reasons.

sydneyracquelle

Reenter Canada by land for the time being until (if/when) the hotel requirement occurs for land crossings.

jlisi984

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tra...rder-1.5911845

in the radio (CBC) they just announced Feb 22 start date as according to Radio-Canada.

jlisi984

I've updated the first post with the current info.

jlisi984

Apparently it'll be "at the hotels' discretion" whether to charge for the full three nights if the test comes back "early" (as per the press conference).

mikeycanuk

But wait! There’s moreAny guesses as to which way the bill will be adjusted? Obviously doing this the right way via proper tender and procurement was taking too long. Probably the same bureaucrats that dismissed Honeywell’s offer of a dedicated N95 production line days before the world went into full PPE panic will be in charge of this new fiasco.

Dominic Colvin, the CEO of cannabis company CannaPharmaRx is suing the government over the hotel “plan”
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...rantine-hotels

Badenoch

The real beneficiaries of this will be Duty Free stores. Facing the prospect of three days in the lowest-bidding airport hotel I'd most definitely be stocking up.

GUWonder

Canadians at the land borders will be allowed back into Canada even without an acceptable negative Covid-19 test. And that will remain the case even from February 15th. But if showing up at the Canadian ports of entry without meeting the government-accepted testing requirement, there is the potential $3,000 (Canadian dollar) fine, maybe even a risk of criminal prosecution, and/or the possibility of being referred to government-designated quarantine facility.

Best to get tested in the US and budget in for the possible risk of being stuck in the US for longer than desired if unable to clear that Canadian testing requirement for entry into Canada at the time you were hoping to travel across the border initially.

Adam Smith

Still a lack of clarity on this $2,000 business, which is a ridiculous number. If the government wants to charge for the test, they should specify what the fee for the test will be, and then it should be up to hotels to set pricing, and travellers to choose which of the approved hotels to stay at. It should also not be mandatory to get food from the hotel - what if I want to get food delivered from Uber Eats etc? No reason they can't come and leave that outside the hotel room door (provided the hotel allows access to rooms for delivery people). Or have a family member deliver it. Or bring it with me from wherever I'm coming from.

So if the YYC airport Marriott wants to charge $500 a day for room + meal, but the Holiday Inn Express is willing to charge $150 a day and let you get meals from outside, then that should be up to the traveller to choose.

Have you actually read the rules? It's not that easy to claim an exemption. Working in one of the "essential" sectors isn't enough. The full text of that section is "Persons who must cross the border regularly to go to their normal place of employment, including critical infrastructure workers (Energy and Utilities, Information and Communication Technologies, Finance, Health, Food, Water, Transportation, Safety, Government and Manufacturing)." The fact that you work in food, or finance, doesn't allow you an exemption to go to Vegas for a weekend. And the fact that you go to the US for a meetings a few times a year doesn't count as crossing the border regularly to go to your "normal place of employment".

sydneyracquelle

You are still only permitted one bottle per exemption which will go very quickly in 3-days of government hotel hell.

Finkface

Oh, I have definitely read it. There are so many more exemptions. Far more than work-related. An athlete and support staff, medical care within 36 hours of returning etc. So many reasons.

You may be exempt from the mandatory quarantine requirements under certain conditions, including if you:

• provide essential services
• maintain the flow of essential goods or people
• are receiving medical care within 36 hours of entering Canada (non-related to COVID-19)

And If you are in one of these situations, you may be exempt from mandatory quarantine.

Medical and health care

• A person who enters Canada for the purpose of receiving essential medical services or treatments within 36 hours of entering Canada, other than services or treatments related to COVID-19