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Canada officials say vaxx req for visitors, random testing to end by 30 Sept.2022

Old Feb 8, 2021, 1:17 pm
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If they are allowing smoking breaks outside, that means they are not serious about enforcing quarantine.
Someone needs to be sent to Bangkok , Hong Kong, Singapore, etc to see what a hotel quarantine means ( door keys that will only open the door once...)
I can see giving smokers smoking rooms or balconies, but letting them walk the halls, take the elevators, and use the common elements every hour?
What is the point of quarantine?
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Old Feb 8, 2021, 2:32 pm
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Given the tender for hotels to participate only closes on 10 Feb. as noted in post 2 of this thread it seems much to expect that the contracts would be signed and all the proper protocols could be ready in a few days for the 14 Feb. so expect a start date to be more like 20 Feb.
Doesnt change the fact thats what they are aiming for.
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Old Feb 8, 2021, 2:33 pm
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Originally Posted by jlisi984
bambinomartino Looks like they'll be using a contracted platform for booking, like say Expedia for TD or similar.
requirements say hotel must be on Apollo GDS (or be able to provide specific rate code). What's interesting is there is no info on terms/pricing/compensation etc. How long until they get through all of this, launch, setup hotels, and be ready to accept guests? Government likely has their own booking platform that they will go through. It also says rates will require full prepayment. I don't see this being in place within a week but - I can see it making the end of the month . . .
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Old Feb 8, 2021, 2:51 pm
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Doesn’t change the fact that’s what they are aiming for.
They can aim for tomorrow morning but it's as unrealistic a target to me as 14 Feb., especially when the PM is still saying "weeks to come". We shall see but would be surprised if anything was in place prior to 20 Feb. or later.

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Old Feb 8, 2021, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by jlisi984
And now for an update: the page was updated yesterday (https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...ravellers.html)

Hotel application has opened as well, with a deadline of Feb 10 midnight to submit: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...ted-hotel.html

Nothing really of note, here, other than it appears you will be forced to pay for a 3-night stay regardless of when you get your test result (and are therefore free to leave).
This accounts for the first 3 days. Has there been any further information about where travelers would go for the next 11 days if they test positive?
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Old Feb 8, 2021, 4:02 pm
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This accounts for the first 3 days. Has there been any further information about where travelers would go for the next 11 days if they test positive?
Those with positive test results will be required to stay at a designated government facility. They have not been clear on the cost of this, but one article did say the government would pay for the remainder of the stay.
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Old Feb 8, 2021, 4:23 pm
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Originally Posted by TheCanuckian
This accounts for the first 3 days. Has there been any further information about where travelers would go for the next 11 days if they test positive?
From the government website:
Located no more than 10 km from an international airport; proximity to a designated quarantine facility is an asset
So a selection criterion is proximity to the facility where the next 11 days would be spent, which suggests they already have those set up, or at least the locations have been chosen. If the hotels are all within a cluster with a 10km radius from the airport, for this to be among the criteria doesn't make a lot of sense.

A good friend of mine in Montreal is a trucker, and he delivered mattresses to а building that he was told would be a covid facility of some sort. The location was around 60km from YUL. If what he says is true, it still isn't clear if the building (a non-descript one with a fence around) was being prepared by the feds or the province of Quebec. That was in December, not long before Christmas.

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Old Feb 8, 2021, 5:02 pm
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  • Note: Travellers will be required to use a 3rd party centralized booking system to reserve and pre-pay their hotel stay
I wonder if they'll qualify for Elite nights for whatever hotel program you have as most pre-paid rates do not.
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Old Feb 8, 2021, 5:31 pm
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Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle
Will a snowbird couple staying together in the same room be charged $2,000 or $4,000? What if someone cannot afford to pay? Will CRA go after them? What if it is a non-resident CDN citizen who doesnt file Cdn tax returns?
I skimmed the website, but can't figure out what CRA has to do with any of this?

It looks like it's a pre-paid hotel room, so could easily mean that you'll require to have a confirmed reservation (fully paid for) prior to boarding your international inbound flight to Canada.
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Old Feb 8, 2021, 6:04 pm
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So a selection criterion is proximity to the facility where the next 11 days would be spent, which suggests they already have those set up, or at least the locations have been chosen. If the hotels are all within a cluster with a 10km radius from the airport, for this to be among the criteria doesn't make a lot of sense.
Pretty sure, they've already been working on setting up these internment camps for a while
https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/covid-19-...says-1.5255674
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Old Feb 8, 2021, 8:04 pm
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I skimmed the website, but can't figure out what CRA has to do with any of this?

It looks like it's a pre-paid hotel room, so could easily mean that you'll require to have a confirmed reservation (fully paid for) prior to boarding your international inbound flight to Canada.
What if you simply cant afford it? Fly to US border city and drive home?
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Old Feb 8, 2021, 8:14 pm
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Originally Posted by sydneyracquelle
What if you simply can’t afford it? .....

"The cost of mandatory hotel quarantines could harm lower-income Canadians: lawyer
Civil liberties group says the $2,000-price for a mandatory hotel quarantine could prevent lower-income Canadians from taking essential flights abroad"

Feb 8, 2021

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...nadians-lawyer

QUOTE:

"Zwibel suggests that the cost — $2,000 or more, according to the government — could be prohibitive for lower-income Canadians who need to care for sick "relatives or receive specialized medical care abroad.

Health conditions that would make isolating in a hotel particularly challenging are another concern."
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Old Feb 9, 2021, 2:56 am
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from the government website...for folks returning to the airport where their car is parked, do they receive an armed escort to the hotel, confiscate their credit card or passport or something else in order to encourage them to do so or non issue because the 3 day stay has been prepaid? All speculation on my part ...curious

2. Access considerations

  • Compliant with the provincial fire code regulations
  • Accessibility for wheelchairs and other assistive devices
  • Provide appropriate transportation from airport to hotel
  • Parking space for travellers arriving by private vehicle
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Old Feb 9, 2021, 4:32 am
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In my view, a lot depends on the second quarantine facility. 3 days at an airport hotel would be no fun, and $2,000 is a lot to pay. But what might clinch it for me is the possibility of having to spend another 11 days at an old Air Force base or something. This is what I'm still waiting to find out before deciding whether travel is a possibility. (I live in Canada but my family is in the US, so I like to keep a rough emergency plan in place.)
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Old Feb 9, 2021, 6:20 am
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After deleting a number of off topic posts and replies it seems a number of posters are unwilling to follow FT Rules to stick to the thread topic so will post a final reminder to skip the editorials and post only fact-based news & information so this thread can remain open and useful to readers.

If that isn't possible the thread will be closed
as there are a number of other locations around FT in which to debate the wider virus matters including the Coronavirus and Travel and OMNI P/R forums.

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