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jlisi984 Feb 8, 2021 8:11 am

Canada officials say vaxx req for visitors, random testing to end by 30 Sept.2022
 
Here's where we stand right now:

- three-night quarantine, can be released earlier.
- at YYC YVR YYZ YUL
- does not apply for land travellers

(Thanks GateGuardian for the comprehensive post!)


Originally Posted by GateGuardian (Post 33047575)
List of approved hotels so far:

Alberta: Calgary International Airport (YYC)
Acclaim Hotel
Marriot Calgary Airport (Walkable)

British Columbia: Vancouver International Airport (YVR)
Westin Wall Centre Vancouver Airport

Ontario: Toronto Pearson Airport (YYZ)
Alt Hotel Pearson Airport (Walkable from Viscount Station)
Four Points by Sheraton
Element Toronto Airport
Holiday Inn Toronto International Airport
Sheraton Gateway Hotel in Toronto International Airport (Walkable)

Quebec: Montréal-Pierre Elliott Trudeau International Airport (YUL)
Aloft Montreal Airport
Crowne Plaza Montreal Airport
Holiday Inn Express and Suites Montreal Airport
Montreal Airport Marriott In-Terminal (Walkable)

Book your hotel
Hotel stopover bookings are managed by American Express Global Business Travel and available by phone only. To book your mandatory 3-night hotel stopover, call 1-800-294-8253. (I also found this alternative number on reddit: 1-613-830-2992)

You'll be able to choose from the listed hotel locations and be required to provide:
  • Traveller name(s)
  • Date(s) of birth
  • Arrival city and date
  • Payment information
  • Special requests and accessibility concerns
  • Pet information
Travellers will receive email confirmation of their accommodation within 4 hours of booking.

Costs of these hotel stopovers may vary by location. The price will include costs associated with the:
  • Food
  • Room
  • Security
  • Transportation
  • Infection prevention and control measures

Random data points from this thread and reddit (may be inaccurate):
Vancouver - Westin Wall Centre - $525/night
Toronto - Four Point Sheraton - $309/night
Toronto - Element Toronto - $345/night


jlisi984 Feb 8, 2021 8:13 am

And now for an update: the page was updated yesterday (https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...ravellers.html)

Hotel application has opened as well, with a deadline of Feb 10 midnight to submit: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...ted-hotel.html

Nothing really of note, here, other than it appears you will be forced to pay for a 3-night stay regardless of when you get your test result (and are therefore free to leave).

rankourabu Feb 8, 2021 8:46 am


Originally Posted by jlisi984 (Post 33023471)
Hotel application has opened as well, with a deadline of Feb 10 midnight to submit: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-heal...ted-hotel.html

Nothing really of note, here, other than it appears you will be forced to pay for a 3-night stay regardless of when you get your test result (and are therefore free to leave).

Thats quite the list of requirements. I wonder how many hotels will go for this.

Also on this topic, hopefully more lawyers and organizations start getting involved
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...wyer-1.5299677

sydneyracquelle Feb 8, 2021 9:09 am

Will a snowbird couple staying together in the same room be charged $2,000 or $4,000? What if someone cannot afford to pay? Will CRA go after them? What if it is a non-resident CDN citizen who doesn’t file Cdn tax returns?

bambinomartino Feb 8, 2021 9:33 am

Whether $2,000 or $4,000, you will get free wifi :D. And short physically distanced "yard time" for smokers, perhaps even others?

I am a little surprised that hotels will be able to host regular guests at the same time. Granted, separate floors/elevators/staircases, but if these travelling lepers are so dangerous, it doesn't sound all that safe. I thought one justification of the high price tag of the 3-day stay could be to compensate the hotel for losing the regular revenue stream, but that doesn't seem to be a factor. I didn't see anything in the application process that deals with cost or an actual bid/tender call.

What do you make of this:

Able to load proposed rate for this initiative in the Apollo Global Distribution System (GDS) with a unique rate code. Alternatively, if the property is not on the Apollo GDS, it must be able to provide a unique rate code in order for the identified travel management company to book the rate.

MSPeconomist Feb 8, 2021 9:43 am

IMO $2000 seems like a lot to pay for three nights in an airport hotel, including internet and meals, but no housekeeping services and no use of the hotel's facilities such as health clubs and pools. I doubt that they're planning to include a bottle of champagne with every dinner.

Will people also be allowed to order (via contactless delivery) snacks and other food from delivery services or the hotel's room service?

jlisi984 Feb 8, 2021 9:44 am

bambinomartino Looks like they'll be using a contracted platform for booking, like say Expedia for TD or similar.

rankourabu Feb 8, 2021 10:02 am


Originally Posted by bambinomartino (Post 33023667)

I am a little surprised that hotels will be able to host regular guests at the same time. Granted, separate floors/elevators/staircases, but if these travelling lepers are so dangerous, it doesn't sound all that safe.

Some hotels have already been contracted to do this to house incoming immigrants on the govt dime. Off limits floors.

marley Feb 8, 2021 11:25 am

When can we estimate that these hotels will be operational and ready to host their first guests?

jlisi984 Feb 8, 2021 11:51 am


Originally Posted by marley (Post 33023931)
When can we estimate that these hotels will be operational and ready to host their first guests?

From this article:


But on Feb. 2, Trudeau indicated that it could be weeks before the hotel quarantine requirement takes effect.

"We hope to have that implemented within the month — weeks to come," he said in French at a news conference. "People are working very hard to create a system so that it is established before people start travelling for the March break."

YVRtoYYZ Feb 8, 2021 12:14 pm

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Originally Posted by rankourabu (Post 33023541)
Thats quite the list of requirements. I wonder how many hotels will go for this.

Also on this topic, hopefully more lawyers and organizations start getting involved
https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/corona...wyer-1.5299677

This seems quite infrequent under normal circumstances, let alone a hotel that is being frequented by higher-risk individuals.

marley Feb 8, 2021 12:33 pm

Family member due to fly home to Canada on Feb 21..wondering if he should advance his arrival to avoid the hotel stay?

sydneyracquelle Feb 8, 2021 12:49 pm


Originally Posted by marley (Post 33024064)
Family member due to fly home to Canada on Feb 21..wondering if he should advance his arrival to avoid the hotel stay?

...or keep the 2/21 date but change destination to US border city and rent a car.

YYZ1313 Feb 8, 2021 12:55 pm

They're aiming for February 14th

tcook052 Feb 8, 2021 1:13 pm


Originally Posted by YYZ1313 (Post 33024123)
They're aiming for February 14th

Given the tender for hotels to participate only closes on 10 Feb. as noted in post 2 of this thread it seems much to expect that the contracts would be signed and all the proper protocols could be ready in a few days for the 14 Feb. so expect a start date to be more like 20 Feb.


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