API and dual citizenship
Jun 9, 2018, 7:36 pm
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From what I heard from trusted people, Malaysia and China will revoke your citizenship on the spot and confiscate your passport if a foreign passport issued to you is discovered.
I am not in that position but I have a system of which passport in which jacket pocket for my multiple passports, Nexus, APEC, etc.
I am not in that position but I have a system of which passport in which jacket pocket for my multiple passports, Nexus, APEC, etc.
Jun 10, 2018, 2:06 pm
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If you don’t want to get caught, don’t bring both passports with you. If country A wanted to do a customs search, the second passport would be uncovered very quickly.
Jun 10, 2018, 4:15 pm
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That would be the choice in an ideal world but not an option for some people or some complex multiple country trips.
Jun 10, 2018, 4:34 pm
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There is an option. If dual nationality is not allowed, the original nationality should be surrendered as per applicable law. If one is a citizen of the the country, one is expected to follow the laws of that other country.
Why not just use the Canadian passport to enter Malaysia and leave the Malaysian passport in Canada?
Why not just use the Canadian passport to enter Malaysia and leave the Malaysian passport in Canada?
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Jun 10, 2018, 6:05 pm
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I don’t believe customs is allowed to keep a foreign passport. The passport belongs to the country that issued it, doesn’t it? It certainly doesn’t remove their citizenship!
The most China can do if they find you have dual citizenship is remove your Chinese citizenship. But I doubt border agents can do that on the spot.
I know CBSA can’t remove someone’s PR or Canadjan citizenship. They can certainly reporting it through to those who can, but that’s maybe a separate discussion.
The most China can do if they find you have dual citizenship is remove your Chinese citizenship. But I doubt border agents can do that on the spot.
I know CBSA can’t remove someone’s PR or Canadjan citizenship. They can certainly reporting it through to those who can, but that’s maybe a separate discussion.
Jun 11, 2018, 1:16 am
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There is an option. If dual nationality is not allowed, the original nationality should be surrendered as per applicable law. If one is a citizen of the the country, one is expected to follow the laws of that other country.
Why not just use the Canadian passport to enter Malaysia and leave the Malaysian passport in Canada?
Why not just use the Canadian passport to enter Malaysia and leave the Malaysian passport in Canada?
Jun 11, 2018, 1:16 am
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I don’t believe customs is allowed to keep a foreign passport. The passport belongs to the country that issued it, doesn’t it? It certainly doesn’t remove their citizenship!
The most China can do if they find you have dual citizenship is remove your Chinese citizenship. But I doubt border agents can do that on the spot.
I know CBSA can’t remove someone’s PR or Canadjan citizenship. They can certainly reporting it through to those who can, but that’s maybe a separate discussion.
The most China can do if they find you have dual citizenship is remove your Chinese citizenship. But I doubt border agents can do that on the spot.
I know CBSA can’t remove someone’s PR or Canadjan citizenship. They can certainly reporting it through to those who can, but that’s maybe a separate discussion.
Jun 11, 2018, 7:36 am
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Jun 11, 2018, 8:29 am
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China does use API. Hong Kong doesn't.
Jun 11, 2018, 8:44 am
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FYI there were quite a few Malaysian Nationals applying for Canadian citizenship right after External Affairs gave Canadians the option of leaving their place of birth blank on their passport.
Jun 11, 2018, 8:55 am
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Jun 11, 2018, 9:27 am
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Beside API vs. not-API, another difference between HK and China: China enforces foreign visa check for its own exiting citizen. HK of course doesn't care. What Malaysia does mentioned above is a bit different from China.
Jun 11, 2018, 6:19 pm
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China does not issue a visa to Chinese National holding non-Chinese passports, this includes Chinese Nationals born in Hong Kong and Macao with exceptions.
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Jun 11, 2018, 7:14 pm
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So for the OP, an earlier post indicates Malaysia Immigration may be doing something now 4 years after MH370. It is advisable to make an obvious stop in HKG/TPE where you claim bags and check in again so Malaysia to Canada is not one check-in.
Or just fly from SIN.
Jun 12, 2018, 8:24 pm
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Anyway it's one rule for some and another rule for others, I know someone who the PRC quasi-officially permits to hold PRC and Canadian citizenship but the less said about it the better.
**Well I heard of a naturalized American who didn't realise he needed to file US taxes regardless of his residence, but he had already renounced his PRC citizenship and wasn't allowed to get it back even if he gave up his US citizenship.