Canada Jetlines: Ultra-low cost carrier being proposed for Western Canada
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Canada Jetlines: Ultra-low cost carrier being proposed for Western Canada
http://business.financialpost.com/20...estern-canada/
A group of aviation veterans is looking to launch a new ultra-low cost carrier in Vancouver next fall that carries the potential of significantly cutting the cost of travel in Western Canada.
Canada Jetlines Ltd. will fly under the moniker “Jetlines.” It is being launched by aviation veterans Jim Scott and David Solloway as well as Dix Lawson and has garnered the support of the provincial government in B.C.
A group of aviation veterans is looking to launch a new ultra-low cost carrier in Vancouver next fall that carries the potential of significantly cutting the cost of travel in Western Canada.
Canada Jetlines Ltd. will fly under the moniker “Jetlines.” It is being launched by aviation veterans Jim Scott and David Solloway as well as Dix Lawson and has garnered the support of the provincial government in B.C.
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I really think going forward the Federal Government needs to require these startups to put a big pile of cash in escrow. This pile o' cash would be used to pay to get passengers home from points afar when these startups go instantly bankrupt, ground all their planes and strand their passengers. After X years of successful operation this cash could be returned to the airline.
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I wish them luck, though I personally believe that the Canadian market cannot handle this type of carrier, considering that it is very easy to have $60+ in taxes on a domestic air ticket.
(now if federal money could be redirected to airports, that would be great-not that this government has been great with money anyhow.)
(now if federal money could be redirected to airports, that would be great-not that this government has been great with money anyhow.)
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I really think going forward the Federal Government needs to require these startups to put a big pile of cash in escrow. This pile o' cash would be used to pay to get passengers home from points afar when these startups go instantly bankrupt, ground all their planes and strand their passengers. After X years of successful operation this cash could be returned to the airline.
In Europe, travel agents need to cover the customer in case the travel company goes bust.
I believe there is also a case in the courts arguing that airlines are not allowed to collect the full fare upfront months in advance, but only in certain instalments nearing the actual departure date. I'm not sure if that was in Germany or Austria.
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$1M would fund flying home 1000 stranded passengers on AC & WS when the airline pulls a JetsGo and grounds their planes.
Market would address everyone else, who are still at home, but suddenly need to spend thousands on last minute tickets for their family when their holiday plans have been changed by a bankrupt airline.
How does that work? When I buy a ticket at CheapoAirlines.com who is is the 'travel agent?'
How does this work in scenarios like JetsGo when they were still selling tickets the day before they stopped operations?
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/tr...goes-bust.html
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[/QUOTE]How does this work in scenarios like JetsGo when they were still selling tickets the day before they stopped operations?[/QUOTE]
Of course they do. Almost every airline finances the current operations with the tickets they are selling now. As long as enough people buy, the airline keeps flying. Usually.
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appoints President
The new airline announced the appointment of its President at year's end:
http://business.financialpost.com/20...-as-president/
There is more info in the article about its financial backing.
http://business.financialpost.com/20...-as-president/
There is more info in the article about its financial backing.
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More insight into there operations, has there business model. Essentially Spirits business model. They have a price templete, not sure if they included AIF's, HST, etc.
Will be interesting to see if it works, they want to charge for Checked bags/carry-ons, something we still get included in our tickets on the 2 big guys.
http://gallery.mailchimp.com/3fe59de..._14_Nov_13.pdf
Will be interesting to see if it works, they want to charge for Checked bags/carry-ons, something we still get included in our tickets on the 2 big guys.
http://gallery.mailchimp.com/3fe59de..._14_Nov_13.pdf
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So they're going to charge for using a CC to pay for reservations? How do they (and other ULCCs like Allegiant) get away with that? I thought it was verboten under merchant agreements for merchants to charge a premium to use a CC?