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Altaflyer Nov 13, 2013 10:55 am

Edmonton AIF to increase to $30 next year!
 
Another grab for the wallet. The justifications seem pretty slim. Effective for flights on or after July 1, 2014.

http://corporate.flyeia.com/news/air...ent-fee-rise-5

j_the_p Nov 13, 2013 11:00 am

With airlines pulling out left, right and centre, they need to replace the landing fees with something! :D

Kidding, kidding...

siaa380 Nov 13, 2013 11:18 am

It does align them with Calgary's and Québec City AIF... http://www.westjet.com/pdf/travel/ba...res/aif_en.pdf

There are a lot of things about YEG that need improving... More flights is one :P

Altaflyer Nov 13, 2013 12:35 pm

There is nothing left to improve at the airport. It's all been done. Interest costs are at record lows. There should be no reason to raise this at all.

Cana2013 Nov 13, 2013 1:03 pm


Originally Posted by Altaflyer (Post 21779075)
There is nothing left to improve at the airport. It's all been done. Interest costs are at record lows. There should be no reason to raise this at all.

More profit and bigger bonus for employees is the reason :D

7E7 Nov 13, 2013 1:27 pm

The AIF cannot be used for operational reasons. One of the reasons for the increase could be the do not have enough cash foretasted in the future to meet their debt repayment requirements, or the various covenants that the debt rating agencies look at in assigning their ratings. As result pressure from their lender the Alberta Capital Finance Authority and the rating agencies to increase their AIF.

This was probably decided a while ago and only announced now. If you look at their 2012 annual report they provide an outlook that shows aeronautical revenue (in thousands), including net AIF as 2013 - 111,348, 2014 - 117,514 and 2015 138,257. There is a bit of a bump in 2014, but then a significant bump in 2015. I really can't see that large a bump coming from increased aircraft activity, the only other reason is a planned AIF increase.

The report also shows forecasted losses of $20 million in 2013 and $15 million in 2014.

Now they are doing some significant retail/industrial development at YEG, and also at ZVL (Villeneuve), however, AIF should not be used for those activities since it is not related to YEG airport operations.

Also interesting is the CEO is retiring, not sure if that would be the last thing I would do as a retiring airport CEO! Also of interest his pay was over $1 million in 2012, and I believe is one of the highest paid airport CEOs in the country.

heraclitus Nov 13, 2013 1:33 pm

Ugh it just never ends with these things.

Antonio8069 Nov 13, 2013 5:38 pm

The 2012 Annual Report for EIA
 

Originally Posted by 7E7 (Post 21779353)
If you look at their 2012 annual report they provide an outlook that shows aeronautical revenue (in thousands), including net AIF as 2013 - 111,348, 2014 - 117,514 and 2015 138,257. There is a bit of a bump in 2014, but then a significant bump in 2015. I really can't see that large a bump coming from increased aircraft activity, the only other reason is a planned AIF increase.

The report also shows forecasted losses of $20 million in 2013 and $15 million in 2014.

Now they are doing some significant retail/industrial development at YEG, and also at ZVL (Villeneuve), however, AIF should not be used for those activities since it is not related to YEG airport operations.

Also interesting is the CEO is retiring, not sure if that would be the last thing I would do as a retiring airport CEO! Also of interest his pay was over $1 million in 2012, and I believe is one of the highest paid airport CEOs in the country.

Interesting observations. What struck me reading the 2012 AR was the amount of $$ they spent on artwork, philantrophy, etc. In 2011, they had operating profits of $15 million, or $2.30 per revenue passenger.

There is no justification for a + 20 % increase in the AIF. I wrote to the federal Minister of Transport Lisa Raitt urging her to rescind this. I invite others to do likewise.

wolvie007 Nov 13, 2013 8:30 pm

Must be to cover the lost revenues with AC not flying to LHR over the winter

7E7 Nov 13, 2013 10:53 pm

Another article

So a couple of questions. If YEG did such a good job completing the expansion under budget, why the need to increase the AIF? Or asked another way, imagine what the AIF would be if the expansion came in on or over budget? For context, the authority has indicated it came in 25% under budget.

Also this article mentions the increase is for future projects, including a 3rd runway. Other articles talk about projects to 2020. So does that mean they are going to start the 3rd runway soon?

Final question. If this is for future projects, implied in this is they will be banking the AIF cash until needed. If so we should see a reserve fund in future financial statements. This is contrary to past use of AIF by most other airports, where money is borrowed, with AIF used for debt service, for major projects anyways. The only airport that I can think of that banked any significant AIF in the past was YVR.

AA_EXP09 Nov 14, 2013 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by siaa380 (Post 21778546)
It does align them with Calgary's and Québec City AIF... http://www.westjet.com/pdf/travel/ba...res/aif_en.pdf

There are a lot of things about YEG that need improving... More flights is one :P

They might not get that with this reducing demand due to higher PAX cost.
I feel sorry for you with no reasonable alternatives (other than alternate transportation or not going.)
Competition with neighboring airports is one reason why HK/Singapore/UAE fees are lower.

sokolov Nov 17, 2013 10:56 pm

In Canada, the airlines have a strong voice when it comes to the rate and the use of AIFs. It is very likely that they supported the new YEG fees.

BTW: Airlines get to keep a certain percentage of the AIF directly for themselves, but they also have costs with collecting the AIF.

7E7 Nov 18, 2013 9:46 am


Originally Posted by sokolov (Post 21803767)
In Canada, the airlines have a strong voice when it comes to the rate and the use of AIFs. It is very likely that they supported the new YEG fees.

BTW: Airlines get to keep a certain percentage of the AIF directly for themselves, but they also have costs with collecting the AIF.

The airlines also have a big say on how the money collected for AIF is used. The airlines have to approve how it is used, if they don't there is another mechanism the airports can use to move ahead but it takes more time.

It is a percentage of collected AIF for the airlines cost of collecting AIF on behalf of the airports. The percentage decreases the more passengers at the airport

SKYEG Nov 20, 2013 12:52 am

Ugh EIA...

ProudEdmontonian Nov 20, 2013 3:06 pm

Doesn't bother me in the slightest as the EIA is a great airport now.

The only eyesore is the shed to accomodate the Dash8s. If I had my way there would be a shed surcharge of $50 for all flights south of YEG on those planes.


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