What was up at T1 YYZ Customs this AM?
#46
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE MM, Hyatt Globalist, SPG Platinum, hhonors Gold
Posts: 3,421
Means I will be testing Global Entry in LAX while the others line up for immigration.
#47
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: AC E
Posts: 25
Just went thru domestic security in YYZ.
Had NEXUS, and NEXUS line had no people in it so got through quick. Heard was 2 to 3 hour line for domestic security, and international was even longer. Concourse completely filled with wrap around lines.
Good luck everyone!
Had NEXUS, and NEXUS line had no people in it so got through quick. Heard was 2 to 3 hour line for domestic security, and international was even longer. Concourse completely filled with wrap around lines.
Good luck everyone!
#48
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC SE MM, Hyatt Globalist, SPG Platinum, hhonors Gold
Posts: 3,421
Unfortunately making it thru security is only the first step. You need to wait for the last person on the flight to get to the plane. Boarded AC793 more of less on time and the whole J cabin is here waiting for the rest of the passengers to arrive.
Thankfully conceirge took mercy and allowed us to standby from a later flight and upgrade space was plentiful. So at least comfortable while we sit at the gate ready to go.
Thankfully conceirge took mercy and allowed us to standby from a later flight and upgrade space was plentiful. So at least comfortable while we sit at the gate ready to go.
#49
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Body in Downtown YYZ, heart and mind elsewhere
Programs: UA 50K, refugee from AC E50K, Marriott Lifetime Plat
Posts: 5,132
Greetings from the Transborder MLL. It's times like this I'm glad I have both status and NEXUS. One out of 2 would help, but having both is a game-changer in this case.
The lineups outside are impressive. I'd say these are the longest airport lineups I've ever seen at any airport. Fortunately with status I was able to get straight to a counter for checkin. (Didn't have time to do OLCI.) I noted to the AC checkin lady that "I don't think the CATSA folks are earning a whole lot of sympathy for their cause." To which she replied "Oh no. I'm right there with them. They have to fight for their rights. Trying to schedule people by skill instead of senority it just plain wrong! And the split scheduling, I mean, with the price of gas these days what's someone supposed to do?"
I nodded thoughtfully and moved on.
There was no lineup for NEXUS so I went straight through. Only 1 kiosk was working though; perhaps NEXUS is on sympathy strike?
One lady in line wondered aloud "How do people get to use those machines and not line up?" I had lots of time so I mentioned NEXUS to her - told her to Google it and consider spending the $50. She was surprised it was cheap but balked at getting her biometrics on file. I asked her how long she had been in line; turned out she had been there 3.5h and counting. For me it was onwards to security. Time elapsed so far - just over 5 min but only because I had that little chat with the lady.
At security the lineup was equally impressive. Here I went straight to the front of the line (Pearson Priority actually worked this time). But it took me 35 min to get through. The CATSA guys were nice enough but they were working as slowly as possible. They were complaining to each other about "them" and what "they" wanted to do. I gather that the scheduling by skill set instead of senority is a big sore point. But the split shift thing seems to be 4 hours on, 2 hours off, then 4 hours on again. I don't see any great benefit to that unless people get paid differently for 4h shifts vs 8h shifts. Still, that seems a bit of a silly way to try and save costs. The senority thing I have no sympathy for though.
All in all, 40 min from arrival to MLL. Not bad but that's only because of NEXUS and status. Having only 1 out of 2 would probably save up to 2h of lineup but still entail another lineup of up to 2h. Having both - well that's why I work hard to maintain status and ensure my NEXUS / GE enrollments are up to date!
The lineups outside are impressive. I'd say these are the longest airport lineups I've ever seen at any airport. Fortunately with status I was able to get straight to a counter for checkin. (Didn't have time to do OLCI.) I noted to the AC checkin lady that "I don't think the CATSA folks are earning a whole lot of sympathy for their cause." To which she replied "Oh no. I'm right there with them. They have to fight for their rights. Trying to schedule people by skill instead of senority it just plain wrong! And the split scheduling, I mean, with the price of gas these days what's someone supposed to do?"
I nodded thoughtfully and moved on.
There was no lineup for NEXUS so I went straight through. Only 1 kiosk was working though; perhaps NEXUS is on sympathy strike?
One lady in line wondered aloud "How do people get to use those machines and not line up?" I had lots of time so I mentioned NEXUS to her - told her to Google it and consider spending the $50. She was surprised it was cheap but balked at getting her biometrics on file. I asked her how long she had been in line; turned out she had been there 3.5h and counting. For me it was onwards to security. Time elapsed so far - just over 5 min but only because I had that little chat with the lady.
At security the lineup was equally impressive. Here I went straight to the front of the line (Pearson Priority actually worked this time). But it took me 35 min to get through. The CATSA guys were nice enough but they were working as slowly as possible. They were complaining to each other about "them" and what "they" wanted to do. I gather that the scheduling by skill set instead of senority is a big sore point. But the split shift thing seems to be 4 hours on, 2 hours off, then 4 hours on again. I don't see any great benefit to that unless people get paid differently for 4h shifts vs 8h shifts. Still, that seems a bit of a silly way to try and save costs. The senority thing I have no sympathy for though.
All in all, 40 min from arrival to MLL. Not bad but that's only because of NEXUS and status. Having only 1 out of 2 would probably save up to 2h of lineup but still entail another lineup of up to 2h. Having both - well that's why I work hard to maintain status and ensure my NEXUS / GE enrollments are up to date!
#50
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: CHI
Programs: UA 1K, MR Titanium, IHG Gold, National Exec
Posts: 3,841
^ Some people I see walk around with their chests puffed out flaunting that they're "Elite" or "Nexus"... I just shuffle through the line and thank the travel gods that I don't have to stand in that line.
#51
Join Date: May 2008
Location: YYZ
Posts: 2,636
On Facebook, GTAA is encouraging people to comment to CATSA:
CATSA labour issues are causing delays at passenger screening points again today. CATSA is working on a solution - thx for your patience. Voice your concern with CATSA at 1-888-294-2202.
security screening points are improving now. comments to catsa at 888-294-2202.
#52
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,849
I gather that the scheduling by skill set instead of senority is a big sore point. But the split shift thing seems to be 4 hours on, 2 hours off, then 4 hours on again. I don't see any great benefit to that unless people get paid differently for 4h shifts vs 8h shifts. Still, that seems a bit of a silly way to try and save costs. The senority thing I have no sympathy for though.
#53
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Ottawa, Ontario Canada
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton Honors Diamond. Priority Club Platinum. Emerald Club Executive Elite
Posts: 446
What does "skill set" have to do with working hours? This implies that some people who are scanning and checking for nefarious contraband are not as skilled at searching as others? Hmmm, this doesn't make me feel any more safe hearing this! Maybe skill sets come from experience? How long does one work as a screener before ones' skill set is recognized as proficient? A few days? Weeks? Months? Years? Wouldn't that dictate seniority?
#54
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: CHI
Programs: UA 1K, MR Titanium, IHG Gold, National Exec
Posts: 3,841
If Garda is trying to impose split shifts on its workers where split shifts were not previously a condition of employment, I fully support the workers. No one should have to work a split shift. That said, I haven't seen any mention in the media of split shifts being a sticking point. For all I know, we're just spreading rumours here.
This may have something to do with job-related qualifications which they hold. I know that not all screeners are "qualified" by CATSA to operate the body scanner or screen checked luggage.
#55
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ontario, CAN
Posts: 5,813
If budget issues with my wife cause immeasurable frustration, worry, grief, anger to tens of thousands of innocent people completely unrelated to the issues I was having with my wife, yeah I think it would be time to divorce my wife
This is a pathetic situation. There are people missing connections everywhere - delayed getting to loved ones in failing health, weddings, funerals etc all as a result of the actions of this group of disgruntled deadbeats. Someone please convince me how that is fair.
#56
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,849
Split shifts are a reality in smaller airports such as YYD and YQZ in BC. During CATSA's last days at YQF, the full-time employees essentially became casual on-call. However, these are all tiny airports where it is unfortunate, but inevitable. Split shifts in YYZ of all places is outrageous. Perhaps Garda is actually trying to pinch pennies by not having to pay for their lunch breaks?
#57
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ontario, CAN
Posts: 5,813
I was hired to do Job X by a very large company a few months ago. Duties and responsibilities were laid out to me durig the interview process and contract signing.
Company has downsized significantly in the last 5 weeks. We're facing new and lean competition and we need to get leaner or the competition will blow us out of the water.
Some cuts affects peers of mine in different cities. I have been told I am to pick up some of the slack.
I now do Job X + Y for the same pay I was hired originally.
Guess you'd fully support me if, because of this, I went and held up / frustrated a bunch of random citizens in my city completely unrelated to my compensation/work load from my employer??
#58
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: CHI
Programs: UA 1K, MR Titanium, IHG Gold, National Exec
Posts: 3,841
This is a pathetic situation. There are people missing connections everywhere - delayed getting to loved ones in failing health, weddings, funerals etc all as a result of the actions of this group of disgruntled deadbeats. Someone please convince me how that is fair.
#59
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Ontario, CAN
Posts: 5,813
It's not like the screeners are enjoying this either. Imagine the frustration of massive lines everywhere, abuse from (understandably) angry passengers, constant threats from their employer/labour board and possibly some very serious consequences for the leaders involved. Remember that these people have bills to pay and kids to feed as well.
2. What does the paying passenger have to do with their grievance? PAX have paid their hard earned money to get from A to B in a timely manner.
I feel for the PAX. I also feel for airlines like AC. I have never seen an industry like the aviation industry where every labour component in the process seems disgruntled and too short sighted to see the effects of biting the hand that feeds.
Between fuel price fluctuations, leaner, younger competition, striking or threatening workforce, gov't imposed fees and taxes . . . it's no wonder BK filings and operational shutdowns are almost a monthly occurance in North America. Look at Mesaba - they're recently done. Look at AA - People are quick to point out AA as the only airline that has not filed for BK protection . . . which will change in the not too distant future. Wish all the work-to-rule thugs up here had the intelligence to pay close attention to the haircut AA emplooyees are about to take. Open some eyes
#60
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,849
I've been on both sides of the union fence, previously as a manager with a private sector firm and now as a unionised government worker bee. I don't much care for either side. In both unionised environments in which I've worked, management plays silly games and the union executive plays silly games, all to the detriment of the workers. Nothing much is ever accomplished.
Whatever their grievances, I'm sure we all hope that Garda and the union sit down and hammer out a solution quickly. Who's to blame for this mess is unclear to me at the moment, but the status quo is clearly unacceptable.
Whatever their grievances, I'm sure we all hope that Garda and the union sit down and hammer out a solution quickly. Who's to blame for this mess is unclear to me at the moment, but the status quo is clearly unacceptable.