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Delta20 Nov 23, 2009 6:23 pm

YVR US-bound flights that DON'T go through preclearance?
 
My experience has been that US immigration people at YVR pre-clearance give me more hassle than anywhere else I've experienced. For my next trip, I want to go through US immigration in the US.

I know there's a few US flights that don't go through pre-clearance in YVR - or at least, there used to be (YVR-HOU red-eye special comes to mind.. and I think there was an ATL one?).

Is this still the case? How do I otherwise tell before booking it if a flight goes through pre-clearance?

that_guy Nov 24, 2009 3:47 am

Philippine Airlines, YVR-LAS, I think.
Probably also the former Qantas YVR-SFO route, but that's not flying anymore, if I recall.

I believe that Victoria Airport on the island doesn't have US preclearance facilities.

gglave Nov 24, 2009 2:24 pm

Cathay Pacfic, YVR -> JFK.

...plus Philippine Airlines to LAS as already mentioned.


Originally Posted by Delta20 (Post 12869850)
How do I otherwise tell before booking it if a flight goes through pre-clearance?

With a few rare exceptions mentioned, you need to pretty much always assume your flight goes through pre-clearance.

Another option is to drive to BLI airport and feed into Alaska's network from there, or fly Allegiant Air. (Delta used to serve BLI, but they may have pulled out...)

LeSabre74 Nov 24, 2009 9:12 pm


Originally Posted by Delta20 (Post 12869850)
My experience has been that US immigration people at YVR pre-clearance give me more hassle than anywhere else I've experienced. For my next trip, I want to go through US immigration in the US.

I know there's a few US flights that don't go through pre-clearance in YVR - or at least, there used to be (YVR-HOU red-eye special comes to mind.. and I think there was an ATL one?).

Is this still the case? How do I otherwise tell before booking it if a flight goes through pre-clearance?

Why don't you just get NEXUS?

fairviewroad Nov 27, 2009 2:12 pm


Originally Posted by that_guy (Post 12871517)

I believe that Victoria Airport on the island doesn't have US preclearance facilities.

If the OP is going to schlep over to Victoria, s/he may as well go by land to SEA with its infinitely better flight options.

B1 Nov 27, 2009 5:59 pm


Originally Posted by Delta20 (Post 12869850)
My experience has been that US immigration people at YVR pre-clearance give me more hassle than anywhere else I've experienced.

Don't jump to conclusions. If you arrive by plane from out of the US into a US airport customs and immigration line you should be subject to the same sort of examination. They don't have special rules and if you're flagged in one computer terminal, you're flagged in all.

FlyerGoldII Nov 29, 2009 10:51 am

Come from outside countries without US preclearance, to a US port of entry, you will likely have to stand in lines/queues for non US citizens/residents. If that is the case, you may have to wait a lot longer to reach the US immigration agent, than if you stand in the same line trying to clear US immigration at YVR.

CZBB Nov 30, 2009 9:40 am


Originally Posted by Delta20 (Post 12869850)
My experience has been that US immigration people at YVR pre-clearance give me more hassle than anywhere else I've experienced. For my next trip, I want to go through US immigration in the US.

I know there's a few US flights that don't go through pre-clearance in YVR - or at least, there used to be (YVR-HOU red-eye special comes to mind.. and I think there was an ATL one?).

Is this still the case? How do I otherwise tell before booking it if a flight goes through pre-clearance?

Drive across the border and get on AS/QX or G4 in BLI to head south. Frankly I'm still offended by the 'Welcome to the United States' banner in the Vancouver airport as you pass through pre-clearance.

Richard Chen Aug 24, 2016 12:40 pm

YVR PreClearance
 
YVR PreClearance hours aren't officially listed but basically 05:00-20:00 & only CX & PR leave for the US outside those hours from Concourse D (PR is D65) instead of E.

mistermap Aug 24, 2016 6:14 pm

Delta has several evening flights from the D gates. I recall United flights too, but I don't see any tonight.

Box10 Aug 25, 2016 11:16 pm


Originally Posted by CZBB (Post 12899598)
Drive across the border and get on AS/QX or G4 in BLI to head south. Frankly I'm still offended by the 'Welcome to the United States' banner in the Vancouver airport as you pass through pre-clearance.

Better version?

Welcome to passing the US checkpoint

YXUFlyboy Sep 4, 2016 3:10 pm

I get what the OP means. Back when I was YXU based, I opted for YXU-ORD every time to avoid the hassle at YYZ. I remember one time coming into ORD the guy waved me into the U.S. Line and when I cleared (no fuss whatsoever) the CBP guy said "Welcome home" and I said "But I'm Canadian!" He shrugged and said "Close enough." ORD is a terrible airport but customs there was a dream.

kwflyer Sep 11, 2016 7:13 am

UA has a summer redeye flight that goes to ORD. Departs from the international terminal instead of transborder.

YVR Cockroach Sep 11, 2016 9:55 am

I you want to add historical routes, CX to SFO (2nd N. Am destination after YVR, operated 742) and PR to EWR (M11).

Not quite in the same category but AS started YVR-SNA n/s. Was precleared but since SNA is not a int'l port of entry or custom rights airport, the n/s route got scrubbed after the first flight.

B1 Sep 12, 2016 5:37 pm

The same officials from the US do clearance and pre-clearance and have to work with the same rules. If you arrive in the US for clearance there can be very long lines if overseas flights have arrived recently. Prepare for long waits unless you have Global Entry (they don't seem to use NEXUS in US airports). YTZ has no preclearance and Porter flies to BOS and EWR where there are often long waits. Porter is trying to get pre-clearance.


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