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IceTrojan Apr 24, 2006 7:09 pm

SNA: Can it handle a 747?
 
I heard on the radio today that El Presidente was in Irvine giving a speech, and of course my first thought was, "Can AF1/747s land at SNA?" Or did W have to take a motorcade from LAX, ONT, or LGB?

I know this is an airliners.net type question... but they scare me :p

windwalker Apr 24, 2006 7:22 pm

Nope, they flew the small plane in 757-200, I Do believe.
I thought AF1 was Nikes' new shoes

Got a nice shot of it on final from the 12th floor of the Hyatt ^

IceTrojan Apr 24, 2006 7:25 pm


Originally Posted by windwalker
Nope, they flew the small plane in 757-200, I Do believe.
I thought AF1 was Nikes' new shoes

Got a nice shot of it on final from the 12th floor of the Hyatt ^

Nice.. please post that up when you get the chance!

I actually drove around SNA on my way home from work today, just to have a looksee. Didn't see anything. But it would be awesome if one could see the 747 land while driving on the 405.

I wonder if there's as many complaints about flying in the 757 Presidential "SlaveShip" :)

bltserv Apr 25, 2006 5:28 pm

SNA and a 747-200B. Yikes
 
Just a few facts.

SNA is about 5700 Feet long. Runway 19R
Weight max is 152K pounds

Airforce 1 is a 747-200B
Going to guess the weight at around 700K pounds
loaded at T/O.
Max on the spec is 800K pounds.
It wants 10K feet. I think the 747-200 min spec is 6500
But the Presidents is a bit on the heavy side.

If you do see a 747 on approach over the 405.
Avoid the golfcourse and the toll road.
Its going to get ugly back there.

Steve M Apr 29, 2006 10:08 am


Originally Posted by bltserv
Just a few facts.

Airforce 1 is a 747-200B.

Well, on the day he flew into SNA, Air Force 1 was reportedly a 757-200, and had no trouble with the short runway.

brendamc Apr 29, 2006 10:48 am


Originally Posted by bltserv
If you do see a 747 on approach over the 405.
Avoid the golfcourse and the toll road.
Its going to get ugly back there.

ROTFL ^ ^ ^

Perhaps it would be a softer landing in the Back Bay, though. Can just see the wildlife scattering...

bltserv Apr 29, 2006 11:24 am

Airforce 1 is a "call sign"
 

Originally Posted by Steve M
Well, on the day he flew into SNA, Air Force 1 was reportedly a 757-200, and had no trouble with the short runway.

Explanation:

Whatever aircraft the President of the United States is on
is given the radio call designation "Airforce 1".

757 is OK at SNA. Its a heavy.
Just as long as the GA stay far behind it.

Its not a Jumbo like a 747.

As far as a 747 at SNA
I agree with the previous post. Forget the golfcourse and toll road.
Its headed for Back Bay. Yeeha. What a landing.

asu-ua772 Apr 30, 2006 7:18 pm

A question:
Have there been any times when G.W. used the 737-700 (whatever the military designation for the a/c is) for his trips to places?

bltserv May 3, 2006 2:25 pm

Presidents 737-700
 

Originally Posted by asu-ua772
A question:
Have there been any times when G.W. used the 737-700 (whatever the military designation for the a/c is) for his trips to places?

Its a Military C40B
Here is a pic
http://www.airplanesuperstore.com/DTc40b.JPG
I assume its the replacement for the aging 757.
Not sure if Bush has used it yet ?

YVR Cockroach May 5, 2006 9:59 pm


Originally Posted by bltserv
Explanation:

Whatever aircraft the President of the United States is on
is given the radio call designation "Airforce 1".

More specifically, a USAF aircraft.

Mateo4321 May 5, 2006 10:02 pm

If a 777 can go TIJ-NGO, a 747 can go from SNA

:D

mbstone May 6, 2006 6:27 am

I think SNA is too small for a 747.

In any case, when the Prez visits Orange County he generally lands at the well-guarded Los Alamitos military airfield which is about 5 mi E of LGB.

SFO_Runner May 6, 2006 6:59 am

I think a 747 would've landed quite easily at El Toro :p

SNA_Flyer May 8, 2006 9:52 am

Yes, it would have, unfortunately the NIMBY's had their way.

A 747 wouldn't work at SNA, the runway is too short. An A300 is the largest jet that lands at SNA.

silverkris168 May 8, 2006 12:09 pm


Originally Posted by SFO_Runner
I think a 747 would've landed quite easily at El Toro :p

Well, it's closed, right? What are they going to do with the land?


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