California drought
#1
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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California drought
More venting than information.
We are in the midst of the worst drought in recent history and ag in particular is really suffering. Lakes and reservoirs are pathetically empty and the snowpack in the Sierra is almost nothing. The governor has declared a drought emergency.
Now, the president has announced plans to come out next week to view the damage himself. So, of course, it is right now pouring rain outside. Woke me up.
We are in the midst of the worst drought in recent history and ag in particular is really suffering. Lakes and reservoirs are pathetically empty and the snowpack in the Sierra is almost nothing. The governor has declared a drought emergency.
Now, the president has announced plans to come out next week to view the damage himself. So, of course, it is right now pouring rain outside. Woke me up.
#2
Join Date: Mar 2007
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In Northern California we've had light rain over the past several days. I'm glad it's something, and I'm glad it's coming down gently so it doesn't cause runoff or flooding. We've got to get more water back into our lakes and reservoirs so Southern California has enough to steal this coming summer.
#3
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It's funny; for as much as I don't miss winter even one little bit, I find it interesting, if understandable, that I'm starting to get jealous when I hear about places "suffering" from winter storms.
#5
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Sacramento, CA, US
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Most California water is not used in urban areas, whether in the north or south. About 80% of California water is used in agriculture.
I'm doing my part to save water by buying only agricultural goods grown in other areas.
I'm doing my part to save water by buying only agricultural goods grown in other areas.
#6
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I never understood the rationale behind growing rice and cotton in the central valley.....
#8
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Short answer to why cotton has been grown here is money - a lot of it. Cotton has historically been a major cash crop in the Central Valley but acreage has been reduced significantly in the last few decades. For almost a century they had all the river run-off that historically formed the largest inland lake in the state before it was drained and partitioned off. As water resources have been diverted and shrunk, so has cotton acreage. Cotton used to be king here but is no longer. Much of the remaining cotton still grown here is in the Tulare Lake bed where the major farming conglomerates have a lot of private storage and drainage recapture. Even there, a lot of acreage has been fallowed or switched to other crops that require less water. Most smaller cotton farmers not located in the Lake have switched long ago.
#9
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: SoCal
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Of the water shipped South from North of the Sacramento River, 80% never gets to Tejon Pass, let alone to Los Angeles or points South.... Most of it is irrigating cropland on the Western side of the Southern Central Valley, growing almonds, stone fruit, tomatoes, and cotton in what otherwise would be arid grasslands. Southern California gets most of their water from the Colorado River and the Eastern Sierra, not Northern California.
And anyone from the San Francisco peninsula jawing about Southern California "stealing" water should look in a mirror and ask why they are so special as to deserve to rape Yosemite National Park for *their* water supply from Hetch Hetchy...
And anyone from the San Francisco peninsula jawing about Southern California "stealing" water should look in a mirror and ask why they are so special as to deserve to rape Yosemite National Park for *their* water supply from Hetch Hetchy...
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#11
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In other news, the Weather Channel is reporting a significant likelihood of a rain event here in southern California beginning Thursday evening. The question is: how likely is the event to be significant?
Given the way things have been going, I'm inclined to think that any rain event will be significant ... which also explains why I'm paying any attention to a rain forecast this far out!
Given the way things have been going, I'm inclined to think that any rain event will be significant ... which also explains why I'm paying any attention to a rain forecast this far out!
#14
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El Nino is Coming
http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/loc...ews-us-weather
When you have lived in California as long as I have, or at least read the long term statistics, you realize than California's weather, especially rainfall amounts, are highly variable. Unlike many other places, where a simple bell-shaped curve results when you plot rainfall amounts per year, in California, the peak is much lower and the extremes are much higher. That is, the standard deviation in rainfall amounts is very high - there are many more dry years and many more very wet years than other places in the country.
Yet every time we get into a 1-2 year dry spell, which is statistically expected based on based results, we begin to hear that the sky is falling. Next year people will be complaining about being sick and tired of all the rain.
When you have lived in California as long as I have, or at least read the long term statistics, you realize than California's weather, especially rainfall amounts, are highly variable. Unlike many other places, where a simple bell-shaped curve results when you plot rainfall amounts per year, in California, the peak is much lower and the extremes are much higher. That is, the standard deviation in rainfall amounts is very high - there are many more dry years and many more very wet years than other places in the country.
Yet every time we get into a 1-2 year dry spell, which is statistically expected based on based results, we begin to hear that the sky is falling. Next year people will be complaining about being sick and tired of all the rain.
#15
Join Date: Jan 2003
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I think they HAVE to put it all over the news because the farmers are the ones who suffered from the drought. To the average people, it doesn't really matter. Water will keep coming in. If it is get really serious, you may get a few days without water in a week, but nothing major. They will tell you not to wash your car on your driveway or not watering your lawn during the sunlight hours. But that's it. In the end it doesn't really matter anyway because the water used by residential is so much less than farming it is almost insignificant. But I guess it would help justify any law passed to get more funding or water supply... because it affects ALL of US not just farming.