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AirAsia Indonesia has verified QZ8501 has reported missing with 162 aboard. Departed Surabaya, Indonesia 0532 local time, last contact with ATC 0714 local Singapore time / 0614 Western Indonesia Time Sunday, 28 Dec 2014. QZ8501 was due to arrive SIN 0837 local time.
Surabaya, East Java, Indonesia is on Western Indonesia Time (WIB), UTC +7.
Originally Posted by AirAsia Indonesia FaceBook page
AirAsia Indonesia regrets to confirm that flight QZ8501 from Surabaya to Singapore has lost contact with air traffic control at 07:24 (Surabaya LT) this morning. The flight took off from Juanda International Airport in Surabaya at 0535 hours.
Search and rescue operations are being conducted under the guidance of The Indonesia of Civil Aviation Authority (CAA). AirAsia Indonesia is cooperating fully and assisting the investigation in every possible way.
The aircraft was on the submitted flight plan route and was requesting deviation due to en route weather before communication with the aircraft was lost while it was still under the control of the Indonesian Air Traffic Control (ATC).
The aircraft had undergone its last scheduled maintenance on 16 November 2014.
AirAsia has established an Emergency Call Centre that is available for family or friends of those who may have been on board the aircraft. The number is: +622129850801.
Originally Posted by gpeso8
I'm in Indonesia right now and local TV is reporting that an emergency exit door was located they are also showing a body in the water (blurred out).
Originally Posted by BBC 30 Dec 2014
Indonesian officials have confirmed that bodies and debris found in the Java Sea off Borneo are from AirAsia flight QZ8501 that went missing on Sunday, a statement by AirAsia says.
The AirAsia statement said the remains were found in the Karimata Strait, south-west of Pangkalan Bun in the Borneo province of Central Kalimantan.
The AirAsia statement said the remains were found in the Karimata Strait, south-west of Pangkalan Bun in the Borneo province of Central Kalimantan.
Originally Posted by Aviation Herald
On Dec 31st 2014 the chairman of Indonesia's Search and Rescue Service stated in an evening press conference, that earlier reports about the fuselage having been located have been incorrect, the search is still ongoing, so far - referring to a report by CNN hitting global headlines - there are no sonar images of the fuselage as well. Correcting other media reports the chairman stressed that none of the bodies recovered so far was wearing a life vest. All valid information concerning QZ-8501 only and only comes from one source, namely the Search and Rescue Service which is currently in charge of the entire operation, the chairman stated with reference to the current information chaos.
AirAsia updates on QZ8501 http://qz8501.airasia.com/index.html
Aviation Herald: http://avherald.com/h?article=47f6abc7
BBC: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-30620647
Please do not post speculation or unconfirmed information in this wiki or thread.
AirAsia Indonesia QZ8501 SUB to SIN reported missing 0724 Sun 28 Dec 2014
Dec 28, 2014, 2:04 am
#136
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Yes, but many people around the world are going to google Air Asia and go to the Wiki article which states:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirAsia
I know that's what I did earlier this morning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AirAsia
I know that's what I did earlier this morning.
A quick search of QZ shows it was Indonesia and the aircraft rego starting with PK, and not 9M, confirmed it.
Claiming this is AirAsia (AK/Malaysia) is like saying Qantas has a problem if a GK (Jetstar Japan) flight goes missing.
Dec 28, 2014, 2:11 am
#137
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AirAsia group's hq is based in Malaysia. Indonesia AirAsia is a subsidiary. Yes, AirAsia Behad is a "minority owner". But its hard to swallow the fiction of the ultimate hq of the brand being not in Kuala Lumper.
Why bother with using the brand "AirAsia" if this subsidiary has no relations with the parent brand of AirAsia Malaysia? I don't buy this corporate arrangement fiction where the Malaysian parent brand has no influence or decision-making powers pertaining to its Indonesian subsidiary.
Last edited by WindowSeat123; Dec 28, 2014 at 2:24 am
Dec 28, 2014, 2:13 am
#138
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According to a media release by the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore, the Indonesian Government has accepted Singapore's offer to assist in search and locate efforts.
Media Release
28 DECEMBER 2014
TO: THE NEWS EDITOR
FOR IMMEDIATE RELASE
INDONESIA ACCEPTS SINGAPORE’S OFFER TO ASSIST
IN SEARCH AND LOCATE EFFORTS
28 December 2014, 4:00pm Local Time:- Indonesia has accepted Singapore’s offer to assist in the search and locate efforts of the missing Indonesia AirAsia aircraft, QZ8501.
The Singapore Rescue Coordination Centre (RCC), managed by the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) and supported by various agencies, including the Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) and the Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN), had offered assistance to BASARNAS, the Indonesian Search and Rescue Agency, at 0930 hours local time, this morning.
We have offered our planes and ships to assist in the search, and received confirmation from the Indonesian authorities this afternoon at 1430 hours to accept our offer, requesting for one C130 for now. We have already launched it to assist with the search and locate efforts.
The Indonesia AirAsia flight went missing this morning, more than 200 nautical miles southeast of the Singapore-Jakarta Flight Information Region boundary.
Further updates will be provided once more information is available.
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Source:
http://www.caas.gov.sg/caas/en/index.html
Media Release
28 DECEMBER 2014
TO: THE NEWS EDITOR
FOR IMMEDIATE RELASE
INDONESIA ACCEPTS SINGAPORE’S OFFER TO ASSIST
IN SEARCH AND LOCATE EFFORTS
28 December 2014, 4:00pm Local Time:- Indonesia has accepted Singapore’s offer to assist in the search and locate efforts of the missing Indonesia AirAsia aircraft, QZ8501.
The Singapore Rescue Coordination Centre (RCC), managed by the Civil Aviation Authority of Singapore (CAAS) and supported by various agencies, including the Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) and the Republic of Singapore Navy (RSN), had offered assistance to BASARNAS, the Indonesian Search and Rescue Agency, at 0930 hours local time, this morning.
We have offered our planes and ships to assist in the search, and received confirmation from the Indonesian authorities this afternoon at 1430 hours to accept our offer, requesting for one C130 for now. We have already launched it to assist with the search and locate efforts.
The Indonesia AirAsia flight went missing this morning, more than 200 nautical miles southeast of the Singapore-Jakarta Flight Information Region boundary.
Further updates will be provided once more information is available.
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Source:
http://www.caas.gov.sg/caas/en/index.html
Dec 28, 2014, 2:17 am
#139
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Tony Fernandes has tweeted that he is on his way to Surabaya. There is no doubt that he is stepping up to take charge of the situation. AirAsia is after all his pride and joy.
Dec 28, 2014, 2:31 am
#142
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I don't want to belittle this tragic event or sound callous and indifferent, but given what happen to the MAS missing plane thread, I wonder if the mod could open a conspiracy/speculation thread. I bet its only a question of time before speculation and conspiracy theories start popping up, warnings being given or not.
So rather than have the mods waste time to delete all these posts, why not just create a thread for all the speculation and conspiracy theories and keep this thread as relatively "untainted", save all of us a lot time that way?
So rather than have the mods waste time to delete all these posts, why not just create a thread for all the speculation and conspiracy theories and keep this thread as relatively "untainted", save all of us a lot time that way?
Dec 28, 2014, 2:33 am
#143
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Location: Singapore
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Just read this from a local (Singapore) news site
4.40PM: The Jakarta Post has quoted an official from Indonesia's National Search and Rescue Agency as saying that flight QZ8501 is believed to have crashed at the location 03.22.46 South and 108.50.07 East, in waters around 80-100 nautical miles from Belitung.
According to Indonesia's Metro TV, the search will focus on the waters around South Borneo.
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Found this link to the Jakarta Post
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...s-reports.html
4.40PM: The Jakarta Post has quoted an official from Indonesia's National Search and Rescue Agency as saying that flight QZ8501 is believed to have crashed at the location 03.22.46 South and 108.50.07 East, in waters around 80-100 nautical miles from Belitung.
According to Indonesia's Metro TV, the search will focus on the waters around South Borneo.
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Found this link to the Jakarta Post
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...s-reports.html
Dec 28, 2014, 2:35 am
#144
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That page also says that the flight code for AirAsia is AK, not QZ.
A quick search of QZ shows it was Indonesia and the aircraft rego starting with PK, and not 9M, confirmed it.
Claiming this is AirAsia (AK/Malaysia) is like saying Qantas has a problem if a GK (Jetstar Japan) flight goes missing.
A quick search of QZ shows it was Indonesia and the aircraft rego starting with PK, and not 9M, confirmed it.
Claiming this is AirAsia (AK/Malaysia) is like saying Qantas has a problem if a GK (Jetstar Japan) flight goes missing.
Let's compare the two:
A low-cost carrier AirAsia A320 painted in red, with paperwork from Malaysia and a different flight number.
A low cost carrier Air Asia A320 painted in red, with paperwork from Indonesia and a different flight number.
Yes, to the other 95% of the world, they're the same company. And before you talk about %s and stock markets...etc... Yes I know, you're right and they're not the same company, but most people will assume they are.
Dec 28, 2014, 2:36 am
#145
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OMNI is for that. Please keep this thread clean.
Dec 28, 2014, 2:43 am
#146
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According to BBC,
The UK Foreign Office now confirms that a British national was on board missing AirAsia flight QZ8501. Next of kin has been informed, the Foreign Office says.
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I think this clears up the inaccurate information being reported to ad nauseums that there were either a Briton or a French on the plane. There were one each, and not one of either.
The UK Foreign Office now confirms that a British national was on board missing AirAsia flight QZ8501. Next of kin has been informed, the Foreign Office says.
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I think this clears up the inaccurate information being reported to ad nauseums that there were either a Briton or a French on the plane. There were one each, and not one of either.
Last edited by MeltingAlf; Dec 28, 2014 at 2:44 am Reason: Auto-correct incorrectly corrected.
Dec 28, 2014, 2:58 am
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It's very sad to hear about this missing aircraft. As someone who has flown with my family many times a year on AirAsia, I've always felt safe on their planes. There has been some pretty extreme weather this week in Java. Lots of rain and thunderstorms. Flooding in many areas.
I put my own adult daughter on a QZ flight to SIN less than 2 weeks ago.
I believe that all of the AirAsia subsidiaries have to be majority owned by investors in the operating country, to skirt foreign control laws. Same in the US, too. I find no difference in the service or planes. Whether a QZ, AK, or Thai version.
Most Of AirAsia's cheapest tickets are not easily changeable. I've thrown away 4 segments this year for family trips, because plans changed. I think this explains the high number of no shows.
This plane crash reminds me a bit of the AdamAir crash 5-6 years ago.
I put my own adult daughter on a QZ flight to SIN less than 2 weeks ago.
I believe that all of the AirAsia subsidiaries have to be majority owned by investors in the operating country, to skirt foreign control laws. Same in the US, too. I find no difference in the service or planes. Whether a QZ, AK, or Thai version.
Most Of AirAsia's cheapest tickets are not easily changeable. I've thrown away 4 segments this year for family trips, because plans changed. I think this explains the high number of no shows.
This plane crash reminds me a bit of the AdamAir crash 5-6 years ago.
Dec 28, 2014, 2:58 am
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