Can "son of Concorde" succeed? (A318 LCY-JFK, including interior photo!)
Sep 27, 2009, 7:11 am
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Can "son of Concorde" succeed? (A318 LCY-JFK, including interior photo!)
Sep 27, 2009, 7:21 am
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Sep 27, 2009, 7:22 am
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Oh look. There he goes again.
Is there much appetite for indulgence among the corporate clients who the service is designed for? "No," says Paul Charles of Virgin Atlantic. "Taxpayer-owned banks won't want to be seen paying over £4,000 for a slow, stopping BA flight to New York when they can pay less and get there quicker with Virgin Atlantic from Heathrow."
Sep 27, 2009, 8:29 am
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And worse:
Must we be subjected to this nonsense? What is this, a newspaper article or a VS press release?
"Friends of the Earth's aviation campaigner, Richard Dyer, said "We should be curbing the growth in flying, not laying on new flights. Worse still, the luxurious and spacious layout on these planes will mean each passenger is responsible for around three times the emissions from regular flights."
Sep 27, 2009, 8:41 am
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"Friends of the Earth's aviation campaigner, Richard Dyer, said "We should be curbing the growth in flying, not laying on new flights. Worse still, the luxurious and spacious layout on these planes will mean each passenger is responsible for around three times the emissions from regular flights."
I maintain that luxury air travel is likely to be a carbon friendly way of spending your money.
Sep 27, 2009, 9:22 am
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One thing I noted from the article:
The difference is that the failed airlines - Eos, MaxJet and Silverjet - were all stand alone operations, trying to garner support from passengers who were probably already tied to an existing carrier.
Looking at it from this viewpoint, BA is an existing carrier, and already has a very large number of seats available from LHR to JFK, I don't think it would be expecting too much to presume that 64 of those passengers (32 per flight, two flights per day) will make the switch.
And if they limit it to J class only (none of the D class rabble) that would certainly assist with profitability.
Dave
From London the attrition rate is even higher: in the past two years, three airlines have gone bust trying to make money flying business travellers to New York: Eos, MaxJet and Silverjet all lost millions bravely trying to prove the concept. So what makes BA's link from London City any different?
Looking at it from this viewpoint, BA is an existing carrier, and already has a very large number of seats available from LHR to JFK, I don't think it would be expecting too much to presume that 64 of those passengers (32 per flight, two flights per day) will make the switch.
And if they limit it to J class only (none of the D class rabble) that would certainly assist with profitability.
Dave
Sep 27, 2009, 11:30 am
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I thought this article showed bias of which the Independent ought to be ashamed. The table at the bottom purporting to show that it's as quick from the Bank via VS/LHR as it is via BA/LCY had the following blatant errors:
- No-one in their right mind would allow an hour with 30 mins recovery time to get from Bank to LHR T5 with a car that couldn't even use the bus lanes
- the 30 mins recovery time built into the limo's segment of the VS journey was not added to the segment - the minutes added into the taxi's segment to get to LCY were
- no time was allowed for the delay in getting through US border controls at JFK
- No-one in their right mind would allow an hour with 30 mins recovery time to get from Bank to LHR T5 with a car that couldn't even use the bus lanes
- the 30 mins recovery time built into the limo's segment of the VS journey was not added to the segment - the minutes added into the taxi's segment to get to LCY were
- no time was allowed for the delay in getting through US border controls at JFK
Sep 27, 2009, 12:26 pm
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Did you miss the bit which said:
The time until passengers will be able to climb into the limousine depends on how fast the queue moves for immigration and customs.
Sep 27, 2009, 2:15 pm
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No, I didn't miss it. But the graphic implied that there was no additional stage in JFK for VS passengers compared to BA passengers - and for what it is worth only full fare VS upper class passengers get the limo anyway.
Sep 28, 2009, 3:50 am
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... only full fare VS upper class passengers get the limo anyway.
Sep 28, 2009, 4:02 am
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Sep 28, 2009, 4:23 am
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