Completely OT! : Melatonin
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The only thing that worries me about sleeping aids generally is the risk of being unable to function properly in an emergency. You could of course argue that alcohol has exactly the same effect
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I tried it a while back and found it had almost no effect on me - possibly the dosage was too small.
The other drug to consider (this by prescription only) is Rozerem - it's not a Melotonin but related - it's a melatonin receptor agonist (it enhances the body's ability to absorb melatonin in my lay person's understanding). I have found it works great - taken 30-45 minutes before you want to sleep. It is not addictive and does not have any side effects. Unlike traditional tablets it's not a sedative.
The other drug to consider (this by prescription only) is Rozerem - it's not a Melotonin but related - it's a melatonin receptor agonist (it enhances the body's ability to absorb melatonin in my lay person's understanding). I have found it works great - taken 30-45 minutes before you want to sleep. It is not addictive and does not have any side effects. Unlike traditional tablets it's not a sedative.
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I never take any sort of sleeping aid on a plane (apart from a few glasses of wine), but flying SIN-FRA recently on LH, a mate slipped me a Valium, and feeling unusually daring, I thought "why not". Last thing I remember was thinking "it's not working" about an hour out of SIN, before I found myself being shaken awake by the FA just before landing in FRA.
Er, don't know about the Melatonin though
Er, don't know about the Melatonin though
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I'm generally against the idea of sleeping pills, but gave melatonin a go. I use it once in a while and have found it works (2mg dose).
The sleep you get (if it works for you) is very deep, and I've found I've had vivid dreams. I looked into it, and this is a potential side effect, but I did really enjoy the deep sleep!
The sleep you get (if it works for you) is very deep, and I've found I've had vivid dreams. I looked into it, and this is a potential side effect, but I did really enjoy the deep sleep!
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Unlikely to be found but not worth the risk.
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I take it for around 3 days after I switch time zones, on the first night sometimes in combination with a sleepaid (mild anti-histamine).
My personal experinece is that it does not help me get to sleep (hence the sleep aid on the first night), but it is a big help in keeping me asleep all night - eliminating the waking up at 4am that I otherwise suffer from, especially after flying east. YMMV.
You can buy it at pretty much any convenience store in US airports.
Melatonin is not really a sleeping pill. It is a hormone that helps regulate your body clock. Taking Melatonin helps reset your body clock to a new time zone.
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Oops, better watch that. I didn't actually carry it around at any time and don't plan on taking it again. I think he bought them in Thailand
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Yeah, sorry I didn't explain correctly. I've never taking a sleeping pill and the only reason I tried melatonin was because it was a naturally occuring hormone.
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Now I drink like a fish, eat like a horse and I'm still jet-lagged - but I have a lot more fun.
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Mr Canuck and I both take melatonin to help with jet lag on long haul trips. It doesn't work for everyone, but it works for us. What I like about is that it just makes me feel sleepy, not sedated. If I wake up mid-flight, I'm no groggier than I would otherwise be and I have to change planes, I feel completely alert. I also take melatonin (usually just one 3 mg pill, instead of the 2 I sometimes take on the plane) for a couple of nights after I arrive at my destination. It seems to help me fall asleep more quickly, to stay asleep or, if I wake up in the middle of the night, to fall back asleep.
Rick A 1 - If I were you, I would be concerned about the reaction - red lips could be a sign that something affected your circulation. You wouldn't want to experience a more serious reaction the next time.
Rick A 1 - If I were you, I would be concerned about the reaction - red lips could be a sign that something affected your circulation. You wouldn't want to experience a more serious reaction the next time.
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Hard core drugs work best. Melatonin puts me into a very deep sleep for about 90 minutes but then I seem to wake up. But it's best not use anything.
Like most things in life, the best plan is to, well, have a plan. Plan to be tired when you need to be asleep, so if if flying red eye from the east coast to Europe leaving at 7 or 8 in the evening, make sure you have very full day prior to getting on board. Get up early. Get some exercise, cane it in the hotel gym for a couple of hours. Have a couple of drinks, but don't get sh!tfaced. Have something to eat, but don't stuff yourself. But when you know you have to be asleep, be asleep. You're best placed to do that if you've planned your day to be tired at the right time.
The best sleep comes as a response to fatigue rather than pharmacology. Sleeping tablets are best used to escape the cares of life when feeling a bit weepy or depressed, not to try to force sleep to come when belting through the skies at 39,000 feet.
Like most things in life, the best plan is to, well, have a plan. Plan to be tired when you need to be asleep, so if if flying red eye from the east coast to Europe leaving at 7 or 8 in the evening, make sure you have very full day prior to getting on board. Get up early. Get some exercise, cane it in the hotel gym for a couple of hours. Have a couple of drinks, but don't get sh!tfaced. Have something to eat, but don't stuff yourself. But when you know you have to be asleep, be asleep. You're best placed to do that if you've planned your day to be tired at the right time.
The best sleep comes as a response to fatigue rather than pharmacology. Sleeping tablets are best used to escape the cares of life when feeling a bit weepy or depressed, not to try to force sleep to come when belting through the skies at 39,000 feet.