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Old Jun 16, 08, 3:45 am
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Question for Jumbodriver: Do the 321s have the range for LCA? I thought only the 320s could do it.
Well the charter outfits fly 321s to Egypt. But BA do tend to reduce the Max take off weight of short haul aircraft when its not needed as it cuts overflight/landing charges.
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Old Jun 16, 08, 4:33 am
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Effective winter schedule, one of the three BAs bound for DXB will be 767 (plus 1 777 and 1 744).
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Old Jun 16, 08, 4:44 am
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Originally Posted by Cyba View Post
Shush you Don't go giving them any nasty ideas about LGW...

In all seriousness, there's actually quite a bit of transatlantic feed to and from LCA - not just those "chavs" you so love to hate - so moving the service from LHR probably doesn't make much sense.
Then the solution is easy. One 320 from LHR at current timings, and one evening departure from LGW on a 737.

That would be great, in fact, if this would allow them to bring back a 2nd flight.
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Old Jun 16, 08, 5:50 am
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Mmmm... Open skies airframes stood down, flat bed club removed, filled with the Open skies premium seat and used to DME.
Or perhaps if the revenue is a good as everybody says to DME, then a couple of 777's could be re-config'd.
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Old Jun 16, 08, 6:12 am
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Funnily enough, the BA fares seem to have just been increased.

We're just booking someone out tonight, and the full J fare is 1996.30.
And it's on waitlist for tonight's BA880.

And if you want to save money and go on SU, you won't. The fare on SU is 2,329.
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Old Jun 16, 08, 6:20 am
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Originally Posted by Smirnoff View Post
Then the solution is easy. One 320 from LHR at current timings, and one evening departure from LGW on a 737.

That would be great, in fact, if this would allow them to bring back a 2nd flight.
That would be absolutely fantastic. ^^^

But enough dreaming now. I'd be surprised if frequency increases were possibilities here, especially if this was being thought of as a cost cutting exercise. A 3 class 777 to LCA* on the other hand @:-)


*What's the 777 utilisation rates at the moment? Don't they have a couple sitting around doing not much during the day?
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Old Jun 16, 08, 6:27 am
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Originally Posted by Cyba View Post
That would be absolutely fantastic. ^^^

But enough dreaming now.
Why? It's perfectly logical.

A LHR service on a 320 with higher fares, picking up the premium market and connecting passengers, as per current timings:

LHR 0845 LCA 1530
LCA 1650 LHR 1950

And a LGW service on a ropey 737, offering cheaper fares, but good utilisation for a LGW aircraft, and also giving business passengers a later departure, as there used to be, at 1950 IIRC.:

LGW 1930 LCA 0115
LCA 0200 LGW 0500

Works for me.
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Old Jun 16, 08, 7:31 am
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Originally Posted by Smirnoff View Post
Why? It's perfectly logical.

A LHR service on a 320 with higher fares, picking up the premium market and connecting passengers, as per current timings:

LHR 0845 LCA 1530
LCA 1650 LHR 1950

And a LGW service on a ropey 737, offering cheaper fares, but good utilisation for a LGW aircraft, and also giving business passengers a later departure, as there used to be, at 1950 IIRC.:

LGW 1930 LCA 0115
LCA 0200 LGW 0500

Works for me.
If they want to maximise connections (and maximise my convenience also)then the ideal is a W routing:

LHR 0845 LCA 1530
LCA 1650 LGW 1940
LGW 2040 LCA 0225
LCA 0700 LHR 1000 (I'd have to "delay" this departure to make it at a civilised time)

Oh, imagine the possibilities if we were allowed to run BA

BTW, your proposed option almost exists during the summer if you consider PFO a viable alternative to LCA. Door to door no worse than changing in BUD (or random airports in the Middle East)
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Old Jun 16, 08, 8:00 am
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Originally Posted by Cyba View Post

BTW, your proposed option almost exists during the summer if you consider PFO a viable alternative to LCA. Door to door no worse than changing in BUD (or random airports in the Middle East)
I'm coming back via CAI this week, same J fare, and an UD seat on a 747 instead of a broken armrest on a tatty 767.
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Old Jun 16, 08, 8:02 am
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Originally Posted by Cyba View Post
LHR 0845 LCA 1530
LCA 1650 LGW 1940
LGW 2040 LCA 0225
LCA 0700 LHR 1000
Very nice. ^^^
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Old Jun 16, 08, 11:59 pm
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Thumbs down BA CE Seats GRRRRRR

Surely if any ac is going to be upgraded on the DME route it should be 880 because of it's timming - at least to WT+ seats...the CE seats are an arrogant joke, esp for the DME run, and you all you BA loyal bods who keep paying for them should let BA know you're not happy. Esp when BA travellers pay nearly 2000AUD(approx 1000GBP) more for an LHR -DME run than QF pax do on an eqivalent distance SYD-PER run(which incidently also offers international service)

We get better J seats on a one hour SYD-MEL flight with QF!!

http://www.qantas.com.au/info/flying...mesticBusiness

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Old Jun 17, 08, 5:41 am
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Is DME really that much of a cash cow? I get the feeling that BA have to grease a lot of palms with huge amounts to land there and this maybe why prices are so high. Just speculating here but then what do I know?
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Old Jun 17, 08, 11:02 am
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All of you keep bleating about LCA, IST is several times more profitable, but doing it on a A320 is hell. Why doesn;t BA just follow its own "old" internalrules and put long(er) haul equipment on DME and IST as they are both over 1500 miles in length. LCA? Throw smaller a/c at it, loads up front are NOT very good on that route.
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Old Jun 20, 08, 2:38 am
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Jumbo - any more detail on where the fleet won't be flying to in Oct?
I heard from a BA source last night that SYD was being dropped from August.

I searched for the old thread about the possibility of it being dropped, but no luck. If it turns out to be true, it'll be rather controversial in any case.
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Old Jun 20, 08, 2:45 am
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Originally Posted by chris18london View Post
I heard from a BA source last night that SYD was being dropped from August.

I searched for the old thread about the possibility of it being dropped, but no luck. If it turns out to be true, it'll be rather controversial in any case.
....... and mine. Being a sad g*it I even have a google alert set for +"British airways" +sydney. Hence I also get stuff about Gordon Ramsey ......

Perhaps if anyone knows anyone that knows, they can find out and post please?
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