LGW-JFK starting from 27th October

Old Apr 17, 08, 10:04 am
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LGW-JFK starting from 27th October

Go on, lets do this properly so as to save on the interminable number of threads that will undoubtadley pop up over the next few weeks saying "oh I didn't see this elsewhere". At the very least it will give G-BOAC a cast iron excuse to issue a few prods:

BA will start a daily service between London Gatwick and New York JFK from the 27th October using a 4 class 777.
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Old Apr 17, 08, 10:06 am
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May I?

Prod!
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Old Apr 17, 08, 10:16 am
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Great news ^^^
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Old Apr 17, 08, 10:48 am
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Loaded in the BA timetable:

LGW departs 11:10am - JFK arrives 14:05
JFK departs 18:00 - arrives LGW 06:05
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Old Apr 17, 08, 10:56 am
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Even more JFK flights ??
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Old Apr 17, 08, 11:42 am
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Originally Posted by Rambuster View Post
Even more JFK flights ??
Which City analyst said this week that over-capacity on the JFK routes was one of the concerns leading her to designate BA has her "least-preferred" EU network carrier?

I guess there must be a market from LGW now that DL has transferred it's LGW flights to LHR, and another frequency on the LON-NYC routes (12 per day on most days!) is a truly compelling USP for BA
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Old Apr 17, 08, 11:53 am
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This is great news.
It means for me club Europe DUB-LGW and Club world from LGW to Jfk...something I'd do a few times a year and at 320 tp's a pop.

We sure do miss the times when EI was in one world and you could get into LHR on their premier class and onwards in CW to jfk-netting 320 tp's.
While it took a time in coming this is a similar service back again.

Pity it's on a 777 though.
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Old Apr 17, 08, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by Beany View Post
Loaded in the BA timetable:

LGW departs 11:10am - JFK arrives 14:05
JFK departs 18:00 - arrives LGW 06:05
Yep, sure did. BA will continuation more strong profitable from LGW-JFK instead of LHR. I didn't see it coming more new routes from JFK-LGW. Its will be lot of more room in terminal 7 with CX, IB, AC, UA, and other specific airlines is being used in terminal 7 at JFK.

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Even more JFK flights ??
Yes, probably they did. I have heard from BA will be dropped nonstop from MAN-JFK shortly. Its should not happening the flight is delayed due to congestion at JFK.
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Old Apr 17, 08, 2:07 pm
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First long haul flight I did was LGW - JFK (I think it was JFK anyway) in 1995 on a BA DC10 (I think)....

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Old Apr 17, 08, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by bazzatel View Post
Which City analyst said this week that over-capacity on the JFK routes was one of the concerns leading her to designate BA has her "least-preferred" EU network carrier?

I guess there must be a market from LGW now that DL has transferred it's LGW flights to LHR, and another frequency on the LON-NYC routes (12 per day on most days!) is a truly compelling USP for BA
Yes, just as the US carriers move out of LGW, BA moves back with a LGW-NYC flight. With the two ex-LCY services, that's quite a bit of extra capacity on the the JFK route (up the front at least), assuming the LHR frequencies remain the same. And then there is OpenSkies which will inevitably take some traffic away from mainline.
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Old Apr 17, 08, 2:14 pm
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Pity it's on a 777 though.
Theoretically, B747s could be used, cycling through JFK but I doubt any reason why. I thought this route would be to move traffic down back but it's obviously just to provide more comprehensive cover of the London - New York market. A 3 class B777 would have been quite bold competitively in the Open Skies arena.

I guess also this is to provide better connections from LGW destinations to North America on BA as well.
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Old Apr 17, 08, 2:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Beany View Post
LGW departs 11:10am - JFK arrives 14:05
JFK departs 18:00 - arrives LGW 06:05
LGW-JFK: which market are they after. Not really for business flights as a whole day is wasted. It does allow for onward connections on AA.
JKF departure is a bit early as well. Not a sleeper flight for sure.

Holiday market given its LGW?
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Old Apr 17, 08, 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by KenJohn View Post
LGW-JFK: which market are they after. Not really for business flights as a whole day is wasted. It does allow for onward connections on AA.
JKF departure is a bit early as well. Not a sleeper flight for sure.

Holiday market given its LGW?
I would guess the level of demand is so genuinely high, and transport links (via the old Thameslink line and from Victoria) are so good to London, and people along the South Coast and in Kent and the eastern part of Greater London would be interested in a LGW departure that the catchment area is sufficiently high and infrastructure so clearly developed that BA LGW-JFK is something of a natural, really. Also there are flights LTN-NYC, STN-NYC and soon LCY-NYC. Why not LGW?
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Old Apr 17, 08, 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by KenJohn View Post
LGW-JFK: which market are they after. Not really for business flights as a whole day is wasted. It does allow for onward connections on AA.
JKF departure is a bit early as well. Not a sleeper flight for sure.

Holiday market given its LGW?
The slots are the old MAN flights which drop the day before this starts. Yes, the whole day is wasted but MAN is hardly aiming for that market. More the connections & people mover market which is similar to LGW so perfect. The lunchtime flights aren't as busy out of Heathrow although the 6pm returns are usually packed.

It would be interesting to find out exactly how many flights BA & subsideries will have per day out of JFK in the near future.

8x daily to LHR
1x daily to LGW
2x daily to LCY
1x daily to CDG
1x daily to BRU
plus any other OpenSkies routes

13x daily!
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Old Apr 17, 08, 4:20 pm
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Originally Posted by KenJohn View Post
LGW-JFK: which market are they after. Not really for business flights as a whole day is wasted. It does allow for onward connections on AA.
JKF departure is a bit early as well. Not a sleeper flight for sure.

Holiday market given its LGW?
Well the timings are good for most connections. There is little overlap between LHR and LGW oprations, so this will be attractive to those in the NE USA that want to fly OW to VCE, WAW, NAP, AGP, MRS, PSA etc. These are not available directly so the one stop is not really an issue. Plus if you have to choose between LGA & LHR for a transfer...

Of course, if you're really interested in getting to central London early you will choose LHR or LCY. Where BA (will) have that covered.
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